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Going to include notes about the ones I actually know about regarding actual smash just for fun.

Heav (Unlockable)


Ah yes, well renown character heav. Assuming you mean Heavy he may be a good pick, however Nintendo don't like the use of guns, so he would need to use more of his different weapons, which may seem against the characters ideals, being "heavy weapons guy"

Waluigi (Unlockable)


Honestly, I'm not sure whether he should be in Smash or not, if he takes moves from spin-off titles he may be fun, but I don't see the appeal of the character.

Toad (Unlockable)


If using Captain Toad moves may be a solid pick

Shovel Knight (Unlockable)


Not sure how much potential there is for his moveset, but decent pick

Rayman (Unlockable)


Could be good

Crash Bandicoot (Unlockable)


Decent pick, playstation may not agree though

Spyro (Unlockable)


Not sure if he has much moveset potential, could be good.

Knuckles (Unlockable)


Solid pick, decent moveset potential

Master Chief (Unlockable)


Personally, my most wanted character for Smash, but he probably won't work very well due to gun restrictions. If he uses guns good moveset potential.

Lara Croft (Unlockable)


Not sure about moveset potential but could be alright

Sans (Unlockable)


Personal don't see why people want him.

Goku (Unlockable)


Could be good I suppose, doubt it will happen

Isaac (Unlockable)


Assuming you mean Issac Clark, he has been in a similar game before. Could work.

Bomberman (Unlockable)


Not much moveset potential. He literally just puts bombs down.

Shantae (Unlockable)


Don't know enough about source material.

Donkey Kong Jr. (Unlockable)


Probably just a DK echo.

Phoenix Wright (Unlockable)


Has been in fighting games before, could work

Chun-Li (Unlockable)


Pretty solid Ig.

Steve (Minecraft) (Unlockable)


Already in Smash.

Tails (Unlockable)


Pretty solid pick.

Paper Mario (Unlockable)


Could work quite well ig.

King Boo (Unlockable)


Could work, not much moveset potential I know of though

Dixie Kong (Unlockable)


Somewhat solid pick.

Fawful (Unlockable)


Not best option I don't think. Don't know enough about him though.

Kamek (Unlockable)


Could work, would rather have shy guy as a yoshi rep.

Geno (Unlockable)


Could work, funnier seeing his fans not get him every game.

Bandana Waddle Dee (Unlockable)


Solid choice.

Impa (Unlockable)


A different zelda rep would probably be better. Don't know enough though.

Chorus Kids (Unlockable)


If using moves from other rhythm heaven/paradise/whatever it was called could work, don't see why they would be the rep though.

Rayman (Unlockable)


I swear you already put him.

Skull Kid (Unlockable)


Not sure about his potential, but probably better than Impa.

Ashley (Unlockable)


From warioware right? Could work ig but don't know enough.

Dillon (Unlockable)

Takamaru (Unlockable)


Don't know these 2.

Krystal (Unlockable)


Could work as proven by crusade (if I remember correctly)

Rex (Unlockable)

Lloyd Irving (Unlockable)


Don't know these 2

Heihachi (Unlockable)


Was in the same game as Issac Clark, who I now realise is probably not who you were talking about. Put the whole PS-all stars Battle royale roster in and it would be good, especially Kratos, Parapa, Toro, Fat princess and of course Radec

Shadow the Hedgehog (Unlockable)


Good pick

Ayumi Tachibana (Unlockable)


Don't know

Excitebike Racer (Unlockable)


Not much moveset potential.

Captain N (Unlockable)


Don't know

Balloon Fighter (Unlockable)


Not much moveset potential. Main move stolen by villager and Issabelle

Urban Champion (Unlockable)


Don't know.

Plusle & Minun (Unlockable)


I don't think there should be another eletric type rep. Give us Snivvy for the grass type starter.

Professor Layton (Unlockable)


Not much moveset potential.

Amaterasu (Unlockable)


Don't know

Captain Toad (Unlockable)


Why separate from Toad?

Doom Slayer (Unlockable)


Would be pretty good. Guns and violence though.

Vault Boy (Unlockable)


An in-universe mascot, so not great that way, also guns. Also would rather have courier for the Ncr ranger drip.

2B (Unlockable)

Solaire of Astora (Unlockable)


Don't know.

Kratos (Unlockable)


Another playstation all stars battle royale character. Once again, give us most the roster, especially sackboy.

Scorpion (Unlockable)


Pretty solid.

Jill Valentine (Unlockable)


Not sure about moveset potential. Could work?

Ryu Hayabusa (Unlockable)


?

Tomba (Unlockable)


Don't know.

Earthworm Jim (Unlockable)


Too obscure and not sure about moveset potential.

Hollow Knight (Unlockable)


Could work ig.

Geralt of Rivia (Unlockable)


Could work ig. Reminds me of Henry Cavill so that's nice.

Dante (Unlockable)


Another playstation all stars battle royale character.

Agent 47 (Unlockable)


Not sure about potential.

Gordon Freeman (Unlockable)


Yes.

Commander Shepard (Unlockable)


From COD right? Guns.

Sam Fisher (Unlockable)


Don't know.

Tracer (Unlockable)


Not sure about moveset potential.

Madeline (Unlockable)

Ori (Unlockable)

Hat Kid (Unlockable)

Juan Aguacate (Unlockable)

Havek (Unlockable)


Don't know

Petey Piranha (Unlockable)


The final Smash of an already playable character.

Goomba (Unlockable)


The better enemy type would be shy guy.

Chicken (Unlockable)


No.

PS4 Quadangle (Unlockable)

Chris and Copycat Mario (Unlockable)

Biorbisidiano (Unlockable)

HelperTrio (Unlockable)

Bisifish (Unlockable)

Adidas Man (Unlockable)

Lord Cola (Unlockable)

Coca Smallo (Unlockable)

Otton Veganerus (Unlockable)

Robickin (Unlockable)

Eliot Hevusrtun (Unlockable)

Sergeant Buzo Ice (Unlockable)

Sakwpon (Unlockable)


Don't know/ why would mascots be in it, its for video games. The only acceptable one would be Pepsi man.

Tetromino (Unlockable)


From tetris. How would it work?

Tingle (Unlockable)


Not sure about moveset potential.

Rookie (from Sonic Forces) (Unlockable)


Customisable character from a terrible game? At least pick a good character from a terrible game like Silver.

Chargin' Chuck (Unlockable)


I suppose could work. Probably not great moveset potential though.

Enkeiko & Olevadon (Unlockable)

Broozer (Unlockable)


Don't know.

Monty Mole (Unlockable)

Boom Boom (Unlockable)


Stop with the Mario enemies.

Giratina (Unlockable)


Definitely not. Too big for Smash and an item.

Dry Bowser (Unlockable)


Just make him an echo/costume.

Chet Rippo (Unlockable)


Don't know

Bean the Dynamite (Unlockable)


If I'm correct an old obscure Sonic character. No.

Pom Pom (Unlockable)

Sumo Bro (Unlockable)

Ninji (Unlockable)

Birdo (from SMB2) (Unlockable)

Mechakoopa (Unlockable)

Koopa Troopa (Unlockable)


Stop with Mario enemies, most won't work. Maybe hammer/fire/ice/whatever else bros but not most of these.

KABOI (Unlockable)

LUG (Unlockable)

HEAVERD (Unlockable)


Don't know.

SANDBAG (Unlockable)


Peak.

Dry Piranha Plant (Unlockable)


No.

Joquim (Unlockable)


Don't know.

Hammer Bro (Unlockable)


Could work.

Pokobirinto (Unlockable)

Pidjet (Unlockable)

Heaverd (Unlockable)

Robertrot (Unlockable)

Deeznoqts and The Ferro (Unlockable)

Peppino Sphagetti (from pizza tower, cuz im bad to tell what copilot needs to do)(Unlockable)

Weegee (Unlockable)

Lo Dorado Dino (Unlockable)

Lukemen (Unlockable)

Monkeyasto (Unlockable)

custom mii brawler (unlockable)

custom mii swordfighter (unlockable)

custom mii gunner (unlockable)

advanced mii brawler (unlockable)

advanced mii swordfighter (unlockable)

advanced mii gunner (unlockable)


Don't know/ already in Smash or some random meme.

Ratchet (Ratchet & Clank series)

Clank (Ratchet & Clank series)

Sackboy (LittleBigPlanet series)


Ratchet + Clank as one. And once again, playstation all stars battle royale.

Ezio Auditore (Assassin's Creed series)


Maybe.

Big Daddy (BioShock series)


Playstation all stars battle royale.

pianta (unlockable) (with boxing moves)


Not much moveset potential.

Jin Kazama (Tekken series)

Kazuya Mishima (Tekken series)

Yoshimitsu (Tekken series)


Don't think we need many more Tekken reps.

Haohmaru (Samurai Shodown series)

Ukyo Tachibana (Samurai Shodown series)

Iori Yagami (King of Fighters series)

Mai Shiranui (King of Fighters series)

Rock Howard (King of Fighters series)

Terry Bogard (King of Fighters series)


Don't know.

.Spider-Man (Marvel)

Batman (DC Comics)

Darth Vader (Star Wars)

the mandalorian and grogu (star wars)

Shrek (Shrek series)

donkey (shrek series)

Aang (Avatar: The Last Airbender)

Katara (Avatar: The Last Airbender)

Zuko


Non-gaming characters (excluding spiderman and batman ig.)

mario & luigi (mario & luigi brothership)

plank and recpiano (electroplankton)

petey piranha (unlockable)

klonda

gooey

jonh cena


Non gaming, repeated or Mario and luigi.



Mii brawler.

Astro Bot (from Playstation)


Could work.

creeper (minecraft)


Suicide bombing is my favourite Smash moveset

Black Mage (Final Fantasy series)


Yes. In crusade.

The Powerpuff Girls

Bomberman (Bomberman series)

Goku (Dragon Ball series)

Simon Belmont (Castlevania series)

Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney series)

Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden series)

Saki Amamiya (Sin and Punishment)

Marvin the Martian (Looney Tunes)

Sandbag (Super Smash Bros. series)

master hand and crazy hand (super smash bros series)

Isaac (The Binding of Isaac)

Mr. Incredible (The Incredibles)

Kenshiro (Fist of the North Star)

Waddle Dee (Kirby series)


All repeated or non-gaming or just plain bad. Or I don't know enough about some of them too.

Peashooter (Plants vs. Zombies)

Wallnut (Plants vs. Zombies)


Wallnut is horrible as a fighter. Peashooter is fine ig.

Mickey Mouse (Disney)

Goku Black (Dragon Ball series)

Zero (Mega Man X series)

Ragna the Bloodedge (BlazBlue series)

Shantae (Shantae series)

Shrek (Shrek series)

Spyro (Spyro the Dragon series)

Cloud Strife (Final Fantasy VII)

Mega Man X (Mega Man X series)

Marth (Fire Emblem series)

Naruto (Naruto series)

Sonic the Hedgehog (Sega mega drive)

Yusuke Urameshi (Yu Yu Hakusho)

Sailor Moon (Sailor Moon series)

Inuyasha (Inuyasha series)

Edward Elric (Fullmetal Alchemist)

Ichigo Kurosaki (Bleach)

Tanjiro Kamado (Demon Slayer)

Light Yagami (Death Note)

Eren Yeager (Attack on Titan)

Natsu Dragneel (Fairy Tail)

Gon Freecss (Hunter x Hunter)


Repeated/non-gaming/idk enough. Why so many animes? How tf is Light going to fight.

spring man (ARMS)

google snake

jerry lawson (google doodle)


No. Spring man has lost his chance due to min-min, the others...

mini mario (mini mario & friends)

funky kong

king koopa

jimmy neutron

spongebob squarepants

patrick

sandy cheeks

squidward

mr krabs

plankton robot


Non-gaming or echoes or won't work.

quote and curly (cave story)


Pretty good ig.

asterix

Reckless Safety Notice Man (wii)

red M&M


Non-gaming.

freddy fazbear


...

spike (unlockable)


If Mario, no. If ape escape still no.

foreman spike (unlockable)

scot pilgrim (unlockable)

don-chan (unlockable)

baldi (unlockable)

uganda knuckles (unlockable)


Non-game, too obscure or plain bad.

The torture is finally over. :)




cool, BUT WHAT?!



but chicken from crossy road is a playable character, look


but spring man is needed! because of this image https://i.postimg.cc/J7DH3B9V/R-5.jpg

or the better, this video:

(if you pause when the video is in 0.37 time, you´re dead)




we need uganda knuckles


It was unclear what game the chicken was from, and crossy road doesn't have a good moveset potential.

Arms man was considered but was supposedly too bland or something and Min-Min was picked over him. Also the image doesn't change anything.

Uganda Knuckles is not a video game character, being a meme.

Min Min was picked because the ARMS producer asked for her personally, like it's implied that Harada did for Kazuya.
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In any case, so much of the cast needs a modernization/rework, I think they should do that before considering other characters(they could maybe include legacy movesets as well as an option), but there's no reason for Mario Odyssey's representation to be just a Taunt & a 'sometimes regional coins appear' on Up B. Ganondorf still has a lot of Falcon's attacks, Samus is outdated, Kirby is sorta as well but I don't think they can change him, Smash is an ability after all, Zelda is outdated, 3 of Sonic's specials are the same move, Mega Man is only using attacks from the first 3 games for some reason, Shulk's arts don't even work like that in Xenoblade, there are other Street Fighter games newer than 2/3, why are they still the same as 2/3, etc. etc.
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Fiery wrote:
@Colonel_Radec I think the Isaac he meant was from the Binding of Isaac (the game not the bible thing that happened)

I thought he was talking about Golden Sun(since Isaac is already in SSF2) is that not how he knows about Ichigo(ain't no way this kid is actually watching Bleach he's gotta be like 10)

He already has a lot of the Crusade/Flash 2 characters listed(Phoenix Wright, Toad, Petey, Chun-li(although she's pretty obvious for a spot), Crash, Bomberman) hell he's got Mr. Incredible which means he played SSF1 at some point

EDIT: Yeah there's no way he's not just parroting stuff from other fangames, he's got SAKI listed & Sin & Punishment hasn't been seen in nearly 20 years

He has to mean Isaac from Golden Sun

Also Tetromino is in Crusade now, they could just reuse that moveset(ideally with a different Up B)

Also there are plenty of gun characters in Smash already(admittedly the regulations changed after Joker got added so they're not allowed to mention the source material by name if the rating is too high(which is why it says Dante instead of DMC in the Mii trailer)
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i want a browser edition of super smash bros crusade

There isn't even a browser version of Flash 2 anymore, & Crusade is bigger than that:s


there is! look: https://www.supersmashflash.com/play/ssf2/

Oh they finally got Ruffle working, that's cool

I already have it downloaded tho, so I'm good.
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i want a browser edition of super smash bros crusade

There isn't even a browser version of Flash 2 anymore, & Crusade is bigger than that:s

okay, but super smash flash 2 is replaced by crusade, and before crusade, gonna be finally... (drum roll sound) super duper, gonna be launched on PC, or the better, ultimate game nexus! (im gonna make this with copilot´s help)

You're gonna make a Smash game with AI?


yes!

Good luck with that. Hopefully your AI code doesn't brick your computer during testing.
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Fiery wrote:
i want a browser edition of super smash bros crusade

There isn't even a browser version of Flash 2 anymore, & Crusade is bigger than that:s

wait theres smash bros fangames other than flash 2???

Yeah, Crusade is a bit newer but still really old (2014).

There's another one I think, haven't heard about it in a while & it was just getting started back then, I'm sure there are others too.

Either way, Flash 2 hasn't been updated in a hot minute, they finally came out of the lab with some cool resprites & stuff, new items etc. for the next update(hopefully soon) but some very stupid ppl are being hateful & there isn't that much drive for them to keep working on it instead of Fraymakers(which actually makes them money, Flash 2 is free ofc)

Crusade got updated as recently as 5 months ago, the game itself is really good, lot's of characters, stages, music, mods are easily addable, there's a MUGEN styled modpack called CMC that has...too much stuff, to be honest, it's on version 8 I think(the modpack) & it's like 8GB now if you're just starting(I haven't downloaded it, simply too many joke characters for me, I also don't like anime characters in Smash either, so when I play Vanilla Crusade I make sure to avoid picking Goku & Vegeta, also Weegee)

It's very polished and has a ton of features(still waiting on them to re-add ZSS tho...)

It'd take too long to list them all without sounding like I was just glazing
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i want a browser edition of super smash bros crusade

There isn't even a browser version of Flash 2 anymore, & Crusade is bigger than that:s

okay, but super smash flash 2 is replaced by crusade, and before crusade, gonna be finally... (drum roll sound) super duper, gonna be launched on PC, or the better, ultimate game nexus! (im gonna make this with copilot´s help)

You're gonna make a Smash game with AI?
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i want a browser edition of super smash bros crusade

There isn't even a browser version of Flash 2 anymore, & Crusade is bigger than that:s
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VC wrote:
I've heard of Crusade, and have played Flash 2 for quite a while, but neither of them let you make custom fighters & stages as far as I know...
The stage builder in the official games is alright, but is a little limited...
So yeah i'm waiting for a Smash PC game with fully customizable fighters and stages alongside you, man.

Crusade doesn't have a built in way to make stuff, but you  can make anything you want if you have the sprites somewhere. You just need to take another character as a base, copy & paste them and then just replace the copies stuff with yours(VFX, SFX,GFX,DMG% etc.) Getting a mod to work in the actual game is incredibly easy(and is actually intended)(the final step, not the spriting), but your not supposed to tell anyone what to do(emphasis on supposed).
If you want to mod Crusade, check Gamebanana. There are also SSF2 mods there, but I here the process is more tedious.
There is still no built in way to make anything, but that will probably change.

When is Super Mario Kart Deluxe Coming Out?

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A user named ScouBSMK on Youtube shared a Christmas (or should I say Kartsmas) trailer for the project he's been working on called Super Mario Kart Deluxe. It's been a year since he posted that, and it's the latest video he posted. I'd like to know when this is coming out, because the game has been worked on since 2022.

Here's the video:



Also I like Hazy Cavern's lightning effect at 1:02

Brother none of us are him *[

EDIT: Alright I did some digging

Basically they are very busy working on the game(y'know, like most game developers are) Also one look at there channels show that they've got more than one WIP project(likely to avoid burnout)

TLDR they're very much still working on it, and I hate to sound like a broken record, but have some patience.

I found all that out in 5 minutes by opening the video description and clicking some links

Enough said.

If I were you I'd make a Twitter account and follow them all(or bluesky)

Also I'm not gonna ping him but Nate must follow every SMK account on the planet, what the heck

Nintendo Switch 2 News Topic

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I can still see Mario's polygons after 11 years

Proof? I haven't seen any footage of the model crushing so far.


https://i.postimg.cc/13RYHtwz/Screenshot-2025-04-18-7-27-16-PM.png

Look on top of his hat

I'll be real, that just looks like stitching.
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I can still see Mario's polygons after 11 years

Proof? I haven't seen any footage of the model crushing so far.
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WHAT???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? help??????????

Help with what bro?
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Nintendo of Korea leaked Rainbow Road's course icon, and also a new character who might be related to Pauline in Bananza.
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Thanks to Shortcat's vid we got some official Lightning Bolt changes.

1: Lightning will only hit people ahead of the holder, not shock everyone.
2: Everyone will grow much quicker from getting zapped, making the Lightning be more about ensuring that no one else has items than just shocking to shrink everyone & catch up.
3: Lightning will not strike anyone under cover(think tunnels, buildings, awnings, roofs in general will protect you from Lightning.)
This never made sense, frankly, & I'm glad it's gone.
4: Once activated, the weather will automatically switch to rain for a couple seconds. It's currently unknown on what this will do if it's already raining? Maybe the rain will be intensified, who knows.

I realize that I haven't really thought about how weather might effect courses, I might do that now actually.

I don't like how lightning ONLY hits people ahead of the holder, I liked when it hit everyone but now lightning bagging is bad cuz you can't use it in first place now

Good. Bagging sucks.

You intrepreted my message wrong, I like bagging in mario kart games, and I directly said that I disliked the update where lightning only hits ahead, now lightning bagging is now nonexistent

I didn't misinterpret. I know what you meant, & I'm glad that bagging will be cheeks.
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Thanks to Shortcat's vid we got some official Lightning Bolt changes.

1: Lightning will only hit people ahead of the holder, not shock everyone.
2: Everyone will grow much quicker from getting zapped, making the Lightning be more about ensuring that no one else has items than just shocking to shrink everyone & catch up.
3: Lightning will not strike anyone under cover(think tunnels, buildings, awnings, roofs in general will protect you from Lightning.)
This never made sense, frankly, & I'm glad it's gone.
4: Once activated, the weather will automatically switch to rain for a couple seconds. It's currently unknown on what this will do if it's already raining? Maybe the rain will be intensified, who knows.

I realize that I haven't really thought about how weather might effect courses, I might do that now actually.

I don't like how lightning ONLY hits people ahead of the holder, I liked when it hit everyone but now lightning bagging is bad cuz you can't use it in first place now

Good. Bagging sucks.
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Thanks to Shortcat's vid we got some official Lightning Bolt changes.

1: Lightning will only hit people ahead of the holder, not shock everyone.
2: Everyone will grow much quicker from getting zapped, making the Lightning be more about ensuring that no one else has items than just shocking to shrink everyone & catch up.
3: Lightning will not strike anyone under cover(think tunnels, buildings, awnings, roofs in general will protect you from Lightning.)
This never made sense, frankly, & I'm glad it's gone.
4: Once activated, the weather will automatically switch to rain for a couple seconds. It's currently unknown on what this will do if it's already raining? Maybe the rain will be intensified, who knows.

I realize that I haven't really thought about how weather might effect courses, I might do that now actually.
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HE'S ABOUT TO GO THERE

https://i.postimg.cc/prqFGmdz/Screenshot-2025-04-05-7-48-00-AM.png

ok but where is this low quality screenshot from

It's from Dawko, he went to one of the Switch 2 Experiences with DanTDM. The track looks so much better now, & the ending has been reworked(no lake, just a bit of mud, & some gurders in the air over that as another shortcut, with some ramp over on the far left of the turn to access them) everything else is the same, except for the turn with the giant cog has been railed off(for wall riding) & the following corner with the conveyors has been changed so that you getting the items from the outside is more of a hard commitment.
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The videos from the Experiences are flying out. Wario Stadium & Toad's Factory look great!
Also DK does dab on hit now.
Stoplights can be moved over(probably by Megas)
Kamek turns everyone into the character(unlocking them) & adds them or something related to them as a hazard.
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Dudzi wrote:
I was looking at more footage of MK World recently and I noticed something, Kamek turns players into those stranger characters the game has now, and it looks like that's the way you unlock those characters, but there's something else, when they were racing in Desert Hills, they turned into pokeys, which can mean that the characters you get depend on the course, and it's not like they couldn't do it, since the costumes already look like they depend on the Tracks themselves, so I'll put my ideas for where you get the new characters (and maybe characters that already existed)
So, taking in account the map under, I think those are the characters you get from them (no specific order):
https://i.imgur.com/y014jFo.png
Desert Hills, as I said, Pokey
Airship Fortress, Rocky Wrench, since they are a hazard
Peach Beach, Cataquack, same as AF
Wario Shipyard, Fish Bones
Moo Moo Meadows, Cow
Choco Mountain, Swooper
Fareway Oasis, Conkdor
Delfino looking Track, Cheep Cheep
Koopa Troopa Beach, Sidestepper
DK Spaceport, Dolphin
Mario Circuit, Goomba
DK Pass, Snowman
Starview Peak, Penguin
Dino Dino Jungle, Stingby
Great ? Block Ruins, Lakitu
Forest Track, Piranha Plant
Crown City, Chargin' Chuck
Mario Bros. Circuit, Hammer Bro
Dry Bones Burnout, Dry Bones
Toad Factory, Monty Mole
Shy Guy Bazaar, Shy Guy
Peach Stadium, Para-Biddybuddy
Savana Track, Spike
Japanese autumn Track, Wiggler
Whistletop Summit, Spike
Wario Stadium, Coincoffer
Sky-High Sundae and Bowser's Castle, idk

cool

quick question: how did you get some of the names for the new, unknown courses?

He probably made them up, which makes sense, he's just trying to describe them.
Also the Savannah track is called Faraway Oasis.

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