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Track Building Contest : Summer 2022 / Concours de création de circuits : Été 2022

Messages 1037 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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(multipost and topic revive lol)

Hey everyone, ;)

Apologies for the really loooong wait. The judges have been really busy with stuff happening irl, but now I can finally say after almost 3 months that we have our results. :D

We use a criteria to judge the courses to avoid bias, so no results are skewed or unfair.

Congratulations to the 16 participants in this event, everyone will receive their rewards in the near future.

Now onto the results + top 3 :o


https://mkpc.malahieude.net/map.php?i=70969 Pirate Paradise by Parakoopa
10.5/20

https://mkpc.malahieude.net/map.php?i=71408 Gator Shipyard by Mr Mouse
6/20

https://mkpc.malahieude.net/map.php?i=70890 Pirate Misery by AndyDTNT
10/20 (nice pirate genius yoshi)

https://mkpc.malahieude.net/map.php?i=70933 Pi' Guy Swamp by TheNudgyBunny
11/20

https://mkpc.malahieude.net/map.php?i=72348 Bullet Boats by Étoile Filante
10.25/20

https://mkpc.malahieude.net/map.php?i=72390 Pirate Adventure by Blu
12.5/20

https://mkpc.malahieude.net/map.php?i=72624 Pirate Coast by Lely
13.75/20

https://mkpc.malahieude.net/map.php?i=72996 Pirate Battle by Max-Bros
14.25

https://mkpc.malahieude.net/map.php?i=73251 Pirate Island by NitroraptorXTS
10.5/20

https://mkpc.malahieude.net/map.php?i=74442 Tilting Tempest by Some Mario Kart Guy??
6/20

https://mkpc.malahieude.net/map.php?i=74856 Pirates' Mines by Osc-omb
10.5/20

https://mkpc.malahieude.net/map.php?i=74740 Lava Sea Shipwreck by ThatGuy03
13.5/20

https://mkpc.malahieude.net/map.php?i=42609 Toad Island by Mudky
15.75/20


Now for the Top 3 ;)

3. https://mkpc.malahieude.net/map.php?i=74502 Sly Shy Ship by PoggersMan
17/20

2. https://mkpc.malahieude.net/map.php?i=70874 Jolly Roger Island by OneSome
19/20

1. https://mkpc.malahieude.net/map.php?i=75130 Port Shy Guy by Starl
19.67/20



Congratulations to Starl for winning the TBC ;)


Once again, apologies for the really long wait. I hope we see more amazing courses in the future, and maybe there will be more TBCs.

Have a good day :)
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Messages 1037 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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Apologies for the long wait, we should be done soon. We've just been really busy with irl stuff and schooling, and as you can imagine we would prioritise those before mkpc.

Most of the courses have been judged, so it won't be much longer ;)
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Messages 1037 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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Submissions are now closing, we will judge the courses and hopefully have the results soon.

If you have anything you want to ask, feel free to send something in PMs. Good luck to all.
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Messages 1037 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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is it ok if I post my track tomorrow at 22CEST? 🫶


I'm taking timezones into account so you should be fine. If needed you can also send it on discord.
Messages 1037 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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Yes we have decided to extend it a few days, this should allow people to polish off their tracks to maximise their potential ;)
Messages 1037 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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Today is the final day to submit something. We have 12 courses in total. Remember every course receives rewards. ;)

Good luck.
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Messages 1037 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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Since time is running short, I'm happy to provide short extensions for those who ask for one and wish to submit a course.

For fairness it would probably be a maximum of 3 days extra. Feel free to message me here or in PMs if you need one ;)
Messages 1037 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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Friendly reminder there are 3 DAYS left before submissions are closed. Make sure to submit a track before then. ;)

All participants will receive rewards no matter the quality of the track.

So far we have only 10 submissions, hoping for a little more :)
Messages 1037 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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We have 9 tracks so far, there are just 2 weeks to go ;)
Messages 1037 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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That makes 7 tracks. There is just under 20 days left to submit something ;)
Messages 1037 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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Cool, we have 5 tracks.

Friendly reminder there is still just under 4 weeks to go.
Messages 1037 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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Cool, we have 2 courses so far. There is also plenty of time remaining for those who haven't submitted yet ;)
Messages 1037 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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Remember, you earn rewards either way, so it doesn't matter how talented you think you are. ;)
Messages 1037 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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Welcome to the official topic of the latest MKPC event, the Summer Track Building Contest! Here you will find all of the information regarding the event. EVERYONE is welcome to participate, no matter your skill or experience, and you earn rewards for your participation. ;)


How to Participate


You will have to create a COMPLETE MODE circuit in the following theme:
Pirates (credits to Toad64)
and then submit your creation on this topic. Your creation will be judged by the jury at the end of the tournament. (which we are yet to confirm, but will likely be members from previous juries + Ahmad)

The creations must be ORIGINAL and made for this tournament (that means you can't post an existing track). You are also allowed to submit up to 3 creations, however you will only receive points for your best creation.

Tracks will receive a score out of 20 from each jury member, and to win you will need to have the highest score. :)


Criteria


Gameplay

Layout (How interesting the layout is? Is there any shortcuts and/or alternate paths?) = /4
Design (Variety in sections and other minor design areas) = /3
Collisions (Walls, checkpoints, off-road etc) = /3
Obstacles (Goombas, Buses, Snow balls etc) = /2

Total for gameplay: /12

Decoration

Visual (How good the visuals are?) = /2
Theming (How creative is the theming?) = /2
Decoration (MKPC decors and the art itself decor as long as it fits the track) = /2
Music (Appropriate for the track) = /1
Background (MKPC background and the art itself background) = /1
Total for decoration : /8

Total for all: /20 (Criteria by Ahmad)


Rewards


Every track will receive points based on their score. Additional rewards will be awarded to the top 3 creations.
1st Place : 2000 VS points + a Discord 'TBC Winner' Role + the track will be highlighted for 2 weeks
2nd Place : 1500 VS points
3rd Place : 1200 VS points

The tournament ends on the 21st of August. Any submissions after that will not be counted.

Feel free to follow this topic if you are interested. If you have any questions, feel free to ask them on this topic or in DMs. ;) Good Luck!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/426051260467249168/997529860325003385/854623436277415946.png

Gameplay/Track builder mechanics I'd like to see on this website

Messages 1037 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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- Ultra mini turbos are not needed for mkpc. The game doesn't have the right scale for something like this, and the existing drifts are good enough. Plus, all records would have to be reset in TT mode. A lot of people have pretty much agreed that this shouldn't be a thing.

- Final lap music changes already exist (I think this is what you are talking about)

- People don't actually realise how highly requested new tracks are, and how much effort it actually takes to make them for the official game. Don't expect this to happen for a while unless Wargor gets help.

- Custom quick mode music
and different shapes of boost panels isn't necessary

- The arrows are a pretty cool idea, but may also be difficult to implement. It's also probably not too practical, so it is probably not gonna be a priority update
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STOP WITH THE ASK ME ANYTHING TREND

Messages 1037 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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This idea was so old, I'm honestly surprised it came back.

I wasn't really a fan of the idea to begin with, if you really wanted to ask someone a question you could kinda ask them in PMs (although it would probably be a bit less interesting that way). I don't mind some proper questions being asked, but other than "How did you discover MKPC" (which is super cliché btw) the topics are generally flooded with either stupid questions or unrelated messages.

I would be lying if I said this trend hasn't gotten annoying, because we all know it's just an opportunity for forum grinding at this point. I don't think stopping the topics altogether is entirely fair, but if you are going to post something can you please ask proper questions.

And asking stuff like "do you fart" is only displaying your immaturity.
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Wargor forgot Luigi Circuit! / Wargor a oublié Circuit Luigi!

Messages 1037 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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FieryToad wrote:
Veno wrote:
MysteryMan wrote:
just one thing: If you're going to fight for Luigi Circuit's background, why aren't you fighting for Peach Circuit's too?
Peach Circuit only has 3 differences from the Mario Circuit: an unique background, deep green grass with flowers instead of sand, and lighter normal grass. That's it. Apart from the unique background, there's only 2 very minor aesthetic changes that don't affect the gameplay or atmosphere that much.

The Luigi Circuit, on the other hand, has much more to offer:
- Noticeably darker colors
- Complex aesthetic elements that aren't present in its Mario/Peach counterparts (soil, ripple strips)
- (Also) an unique background
- An extra obstacle that changes the gameplay (the puddle)
- A more somber atmosphere

Although I'm not completely against a theme for Peach Circuit (or even Riverside Park and Broken Pier), Luigi Circuit simply IS objectively more interesting than these other 3 options. Therefore, it makes sense to prioritize it first.



I think it should be a subtheme for Mario Circuit, same with Boo Lake and Broken Pier, and Lakeside Park with Riverside Park.


Riverside Park and Lakeside Park are the same but with different backgrounds, same goes for Boo Lake and Broken Pier.
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Messages 1037 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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Veno wrote:
@Wargor

(Au cas où tu ne m'as pas reconnu: je suis Waluigi68‎)
J'ai récemment remarqué qu'il existe un thème manquant dans l'éditeur simplifié: le GBA Circuit Luigi! :o

Heureusement pour toi, j'en a fait un par moi-même juste pour m'amuser et tu peux le télécharger ici^^

Ne me dites pas "c'est juste la même chose que le GBA Circuit Mario *[" car il y a des différences notables entre les 2:

- Ils n'ont pas le même arrière-plan
- L'herbe, la route et la couleur de fond sont plus foncés dans le GBA Circuit Luigi
- Le GBA Circuit Luigi possède ces carrés blancs et rouges aux extrémités des virages (jsp comment on les appelle, en réalité je ne suis même pas sûr qu'ils ont un nom...), alors que le GBA Circuit Mario ne les a pas
- Le GBA Circuit Luigi a de la terre à la place du sable
- Le GBA Circuit Mario a des lignes blanches au centre de la route, alors que le GBA Circuit Luigi n'en pas
- Le GBA Circuit Luigi possède un obstacle supplémentaire: des taches grises (jsp si c'est censé être de l'eau ou de l'huile...)

Voici une comparaison côte à côte entre les 2 thèmes:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915088823422189571/1028495452456357929/GBAML.png

Voici un circuit-exemple (créé dans l'éditeur complet) utilisant ce "nouveau thème" en tant qu'aperçu à quoi un circuit simplifié utilisant ce thème pourrait ressembler ;)

Et finalement, voici le même circuit-exemple mais cette fois créé dans l'éditeur simplifié avec le thème GBA Circuit Mario, pour m'assurer davantage de vous avoir convaincu :p

Toujours pas convaincu(e)(s)? Même si les différences entre les 2 ne sont pas extrêmes non plus, n'oubliez pas que le GBA Château de Bowser 3 possède son propre thème juste parce qu'il a la piste bleue et un arrière-plan unique, je dirais donc que ce thème mérite malgré tout d'être rajouté! |)

Puisqu'il s'agit techniquement d'une requête de màj, svp réagissez à mon message afin de me montrer votre opinion:
⬆️ = Pour
⬇️ = Contre
🤷 = Neutre

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Rare cas d'un fan de Waluigi prenant la défense de Luigi boulet lolrire


(In case you didn't recognize me: I'm Waluigi68‎)
I recently noticed that one theme is missing in the quick track builder: the GBA Luigi Circuit! :o

Luckily for you, I made one by myself just for fun and you can download it here^^

Don't tell me "it's just the same thing as the GBA Mario Circuit *[" because there are some noticeable differences between the 2:

- They don't have the same background
- The grass, road and background color are darker in GBA Luigi Circuit
- The GBA Luigi Circuit has these red and white squares at the border of corners (idk how they're named, if there's even a name for them...), while the GBA Mario Circuit lack them
- The GBA Luigi Circuit has soil instead of sand
- The GBA Mario Circuit has white lines at the center of the road, while the GBA Luigi Circuit lack them
- The GBA Luigi Circuit has an extra obstacle: grey stains (idk if they're supposed to be water or oil...)

Here's a side-to-side comparison between the 2:https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915088823422189571/1028495452456357929/GBAML.png

Here is an example track (made in complete mode) using this "new theme" as a showcase for how a quick track using this theme could look ;)

And finally, here is the same example track but this time made in quick mode using the GBA Mario Circuit theme, to make even more sure I've convinced you :p

Still not convinced? Even if the differences between these 2 aren't that extreme, don't forget the GBA Bowser Castle 3 has its own theme just because it has a blue road and an unique background, so I'd say this theme deserves to be added anyway! |)

Since this is technically an update request, please react to my message in order show your opinion on this:
⬆️ = Pro
⬇️ = Con
🤷 = Neutral

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Rare instance of a Waluigi fan defending Luigi boulet rirelolfou


It's actually been in the making for a while now, and I'm the one who's doing it. Unfortunately I'm unable to finish off the final 3 pieces as I'm prioritising school.

Also one of the pieces took me 3 and a half hours so it really demotivated me for a bit.

I'll try to give it to him soon ;)
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What's the best(and worst) Mario Kart retro recreations in your opinion

Messages 1037 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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Ok time to write a lot...

Best remakes:

5. GBA Sunset Wilds on MKT
This remake got rid of what the original did wrong, which was being too long and too boring. Now each section is unique, and the cutdown of the layout was pretty good. It's only at 5 because the track itself was never spectacular.

4. GBA Cheese Land on MK8
Great remake conceptually and aesthetically, the only problem with the track is that it feels too bagging based given the 2 glider ramps at the end, otherwise this remake is awesome.

3. GBA Boo Lake on MKT
It got released not too long ago, but really improved on the original. The underwater section is really cool. I guess not every GBA remake gets destroyed anymore.

2. DS Shroom Ridge on MK8DX
Aside from the ugly mountain design (but I never really cared for the simple BCP aesthetics anyway, it's overhated), this remake is just stunning. This is my all time personal favourite remake by Nintendo because it just plays so well, and the music is perfection. I want to put this at #1, but it didn't change too much from the original.

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N64 Choco Mountain on MK8DX/MKT
Out of all of the Nintendo remakes, this one takes the original track an uses it to its full potential. It's got pretty much everything you would ask for in a remake.


Tracks that could've made this list:
- Wii Grumble Volcano on MK8 (the original was already good tho)
- N64 Royal Raceway on MK8 (someone mentioned this earlier saying how the remake is bad because you can't go into the castle, that's completely player bias imo, the track itself plays amazingly and tbh the castle area didn't matter)
- GBA Bowser Castle 3 on MKWii (it didn't change much from the original, but also didn't need to since it was so fun anyway)
- SNES Donut Plains 3 on MK8 (compared to the original, this is amazing, but the track itself isn't too interesting)
- GBA Snow Land on MK8DX (cool revamp of the original)
There's a lot more, but this post is already long enough

Worst remakes:

5. GBA Cheep Cheep Island on MKT
Other than the one new section which is actually pretty cool, the rest of the track is really bland, especially the beginning. There's almost nothing happening in it, and a lot of the small islands got destroyed.

4. Wii Koopa Cape on MK7
The track itself isn't bad, but the remake removed what made the track climactic. The rapids section feels so slow and the underwater tunnel got destroyed. I don't really mind the glider ramp, but I think having it as an option would be better.

3. GBA Sky Garden on MK8DX/MKT
It's a terrible remake of the original track, having half the layout butchered. I personally don't think it's a terrible track, it's pretty fun on 200cc. But this list is for judging remakes, so I have to put it here even if I don't want to.

2. SNES Choco Island 2 on MKDS
It's a bad track, and this remake didn't do anything to fix the annoying gameplay.

1. GCN Baby Park on MKDS
This one is super obvious. The track itself isn't that great, but this takes the cake when it comes to boring tracks. There's literally nothing to keep it interesting.

Tracks that could've made this list:
- Maple Treeway on 3DS (same logic with Koopa Cape, it got rid of the net, but it wasn't bad enough to make the top 5)
- Literally any SNES Rainbow Road (at least it's good in 200cc on MK8 )
- Toad's Turnpike on MK8 (it didn't make it more interesting compared to the original other than the aesthetics, but it just suffers from Toad's Turnpike syndrome (i.e. the original was bad))

Remakes I think are interesting to discuss:
- Wii Coconut Mall on MK8DX/MKT (i know it's not like the original, but hating on the new aesthetic doesn't make the track bad. and people complain about the escalators being different, but disregard the fact that it was designed for newer players too)
- SNES Mario Circuit 3 on MK8DX (people say it's the worst in the BCP so far, but we dodged a bullet since we got a better SNES track)


I've tried to keep bias out of this list, which is probably evident in some decisions. Tell me what you think ;)
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MKPC Update Idea

Messages 1037 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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I'm just gonna say everything in one post:

1. Just because there is already another topic about update ideas doesn't mean it needs to be used. Chances are it would be revived, and it's not like the intention of this topic was to spam anyway. I wouldn't necessarily call it useless.

2. MK64 tracks have been requested many times as you can already imagine. What I don't think most of the community realises is that it's not as easy as just taking an image and programming it, Wargor has to ensure that the image is high quality too (which would take a looong time). Whilst MK64 is 3D, it's really easy to make flat versions since the tracks never really had much terrain changes. However, adding these tracks won't come any time soon. Same logic applies to new arenas.

3. We don't really need new characters, we already have the community ones. Maybe they won't have the same feel, but this wouldn't be a priority update (also it's not like anyone uses characters other than Daisy). Also the babies are a straight no.

4. 200cc Grand Prix would be cool (but Blue Shroom Cup :s )


It's also important to note that Wargor is basically the only developer of the game, and he has a life outside of MKPC too. I don't think it's fair to pressure him to release new updates frequently (not that you were demanding anything but you get my point).
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