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Should DDE (Daisy Drift Exploit) be patched?

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Messages 650 - Mario Mario
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SMPlayer wrote:
I don't think skill and luck are well-balanced. DDE is one of these "easy to learn, hard to master" techniqes. It depends on the track. For example on DS Rainbow Road, you fall off milion times, so you just wanna get a Bullet Bill.

I meant generally, track-specific is a problem. MC1 is infamous for item smuggling being optimal (Looking at you PogChomp), but DS RR Daisy is still used to prevent you falling off. Instead of snaking you're using the handling for its intended purpose.

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Messages 292 - Toadsworth Toadsworth
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MC1 is similar to Luigi Cir. in MKWii it all depends on item distribution, not skill because its such an easy track and all thats needed to win is a goof item.
Messages 292 - Toadsworth Toadsworth
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Syawf wrote:
InToNY wrote:
Hey, and I have a question.
When I was starting playing online, I was just destroyed 'cause everyone just used DDE. It's like MKWii, But is extremely skill-based. When 2 pros race, a pro wins that can drift through more part of the stage, it's not luck  dependant (MKT took luck-based online to extreme).
So should this exploit be patched to made MKPC more begginer friendly?        toad

PS: I can't even imagine a online game with players not playing as Daisy or skin with her stats.  yoshi


One solution: being more good at the game.
Snake you can do it too, you just have to learn, and yes we pros spent some time on it too so I don't see why we would make the game like mk8d in "it's all luck" mode, on the contrary, it wouldn't be competitive at all and that would be a big mistake. If we did that we would change the whole meta and people would get bored. Are you complaining that it's all about skill? Let me laugh, it's the best thing possible, a game that is played on merit and not on luck... In my opinion you must be a beginner but you complain instead of trying to improve yourself unlike some people, we too have been sweating it. I think you don't know enough about the game to describe it. Personally being there for 5 years, I always found the metas although I agree, the fact that daisy is super cheated compared to others is unfair. You shouldn't have daisy's nerve but you should balance other characters, that's the best thing to do. Nate explained his point of view very well as well, which is shared with mine.

And you say "a simple change" <-- an other thing who proves you really don't know the game. If we make a change, same just 1 lower this would totally change the actual meta...


I agree with you.;):D:)

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Messages 10843 - King Mario King Mario
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J'ai quelque chose à dire, bien que maintenant ce soit inutile parce qu'InTony a eu sa réponse :

Si le snaking de Daisy est supprimé, je pense que les records devraient être supprimés, et que la plupart des joueurs devraient recommencer. Moi-même qui ne suis pas un joueur pro (je suis même un noob, voyez), j'ai utilisé le snaking maximal pour terminer certaines pistes telles que les longues lignes (Desert Bus disponible ici) mdr je me suis tué les bras, les mains et les doigts mdr lol rire. Par ailleurs, si vous avez bien observé les meilleurs temps de Contre-la-montre (Time Trial), vous remarquerez que la plupart utilisent Daisy. Cela n'a aucun rapport avec ce que j'ai dit, mais en plus la maniabilité de Daisy qui la rend célèbre ici est semblable au fait que sa vitesse dans MKWii était la raison de sa célébrité. Je pense que c'est une mauvaise idée, car les personnages sont équilibrés. InfiNate a également raison, puisque le snaking peut être effectué avec d'autres personnages, je trouve que Mario et Yoshi ont une maniabilité convenable, Toad et Peach seraient même capables de faire du snaking, donc le terme "Daisy Drift Exploit" est un peu manquant de précision. Peach et Toad peuvent avoir une vitesse plus grande que celle de Daisy. 8)
Messages 663 - Mario Mario
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That is literally the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Nobody to blame but me cuz I pretty much caused this to happen.

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Messages 1034 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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The real question, do the quick mode key checkpoints need to be patched? That's probably a bigger issue for me.

(Only problem with that is old courses, shortcuts and challenges may not work)
Messages 10843 - King Mario King Mario
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That is literally the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Nobody to blame but me cuz I pretty much caused this to happen.


"stupidest thing"
Who are you talking about ? of me ?
Messages 650 - Mario Mario
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Lely wrote:
That is literally the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Nobody to blame but me cuz I pretty much caused this to happen.


"stupidest thing"
Who are you talking about ? of me ?

No, hoppingicon discovered snaking to make the game more fast paced, so it getting removed would make all the advances made over the last year worthless in his eyes, as the creator of the current metagame.

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Lely wrote:
That is literally the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Nobody to blame but me cuz I pretty much caused this to happen.


"stupidest thing"
Who are you talking about ? of me ?

No, hoppingicon discovered snaking to make the game more fast paced, so it getting removed would make all the advances made over the last year worthless in his eyes, as the creator of the current metagame.

I chose Daisy because it was best for me. A few people thought it was a good idea... but now EVERYONE is involved.

And this "DDE" thing? That's just shit to me.

Long story short, it's a great idea gone wrong. I'm flattered by people because they thought it was a good idea, but I didn't think I'd have control of the game for that.

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Messages 2590 - King Mario King Mario
FK_Lely wrote:
J'ai quelque chose à dire, bien que maintenant ce soit inutile parce qu'InTony a eu sa réponse :

Si le snaking de Daisy est supprimé, je pense que les records devraient être supprimés, et que la plupart des joueurs devraient recommencer. Moi-même qui ne suis pas un joueur pro (je suis même un noob, voyez), j'ai utilisé le snaking maximal pour terminer certaines pistes telles que les longues lignes (Desert Bus disponible ici) mdr je me suis tué les bras, les mains et les doigts mdr lol rire.


Le snaking sur MKPC, c'est rien, jsp comment tu fait pour avoir mal aux bras, aux mains et aux doigts (Sauf si tu joues pendant 5 heures d'affilé), les seuls jeux Mario Kart où la sensations d'avoir mal aux bras, aux mains et aux doigts sur Mario Kart : Double Dash et Mario Kart DS car il faut drift tout le temps.

FK_Lely wrote:
Par ailleurs, si vous avez bien observé les meilleurs temps de Contre-la-montre (Time Trial), vous remarquerez que la plupart utilisent Daisy. Cela n'a aucun rapport avec ce que j'ai dit, mais en plus la maniabilité de Daisy qui la rend célèbre ici est semblable au fait que sa vitesse dans MKWii était la raison de sa célébrité.


Elle a presque les mêmes stats que Funky-Kong. La seule différence est sa maniabilité (ça se remarque sur retro Circuit Mario 4)

FK_Lely wrote:
Je pense que c'est une mauvaise idée, car les personnages sont équilibrés.


Là, je suis contre, depuis au début de Mario Kart, seul quelques karts sont puissant dans certains Mario Kart (environ 3 ou 4), sur MKPC, certains "travaille" sur ce problème pour que les newcomers peuvent avoir une chance de battre les plus forts.

FK_Lely wrote:
InfiNate a également raison, puisque le snaking peut être effectué avec d'autres personnages, je trouve que Mario et Yoshi ont une maniabilité convenable, Toad et Peach seraient même capables de faire du snaking, donc le terme "Daisy Drift Exploit" est un peu manquant de précision. Peach et Toad peuvent avoir une vitesse plus grande que celle de Daisy. 8)


L'accélération est plus important que la vitesse sur MKPC, c'est pareil sur MKDS. Après, il y a aussi Diddy-Kong, Birdo et Skelerex qui ont la capacité de drift. (En faite, tout les personnage peuvent driftent mais certains sont plus dur à drift que les autres)



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What is the Daisy Drift exploit
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Messages 545 - Mario Mario
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pianta wrote:
SMPlayer wrote:
I don't think skill and luck are well-balanced. DDE is one of these "easy to learn, hard to master" techniqes. It depends on the track. For example on DS Rainbow Road, you fall off milion times, so you just wanna get a Bullet Bill.

I meant generally, track-specific is a problem. MC1 is infamous for item smuggling being optimal (Looking at you PogChomp), but DS RR Daisy is still used to prevent you falling off. Instead of snaking you're using the handling for its intended purpose.

Fways appreciates this.


WAIT, you can steal items?

No, item smuggling is bringing a power item to first

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