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Messages 929 - Mario Mario
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theRAIN wrote:
"Pan" flute...

That's One of the Instruments Used In THE WORLD REVOLVING from DELTARUNE, I Think It Is Used In Super Mario 64 too.
I Chose the Name Because I Was Wondering What the Instrument Was Called and Then I Figured It out Thanks to Two YouTube Videos
Edit: Mostly This Video

Sorry If This Is a Little Off-Topic

Edit: Sorry :(
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Messages 491 - Metal Luigi Metal Luigi
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United States
theRAIN wrote:
Everglow is finally coming back πŸ’€ I truly thought they were going to disband, considering their hiatus is lasting since November 2021, which is a while ago in K-pop... plus one member was in China and one member was sick... the whole thing was a mess and everybody thought they just glew for a bit but no, they are back. My girls are finally back.
Now hoping for a >20s diff in line distribution πŸ™
Edit : Ready for the toxic Blinks saying Everglow copied BLACKPINK because they came back after a long hiatus on August 18th which is very similar to what Blackpink did last year ?

Don’t tell lely about a collab somebody did with everyglow in late 2022, for a song called ghostlight (also i only know that song because i like the other songs that the person made
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Messages 10882 - King Mario King Mario
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France
Ssg-132 wrote:
theRAIN wrote:
Everglow is finally coming back πŸ’€ I truly thought they were going to disband, considering their hiatus is lasting since November 2021, which is a while ago in K-pop... plus one member was in China and one member was sick... the whole thing was a mess and everybody thought they just glew for a bit but no, they are back. My girls are finally back.
Now hoping for a >20s diff in line distribution πŸ™
Edit : Ready for the toxic Blinks saying Everglow copied BLACKPINK because they came back after a long hiatus on August 18th which is very similar to what Blackpink did last year ?

Don’t tell lely about a collab somebody did with everyglow in late 2022, for a song called ghostlight (also i only know that song because i like the other songs that the person made

I think I heard about it but thanks for reminding
Messages 10882 - King Mario King Mario
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France
This community is not going well...
I definitively think it's not a secret anymore: This community is going quite unwell.

And by quite, I mean more, but let's get into that in detail so we can all understand what has been going on and find actual solutions, because nothing is going on and the site can't become any worse or its sake will be consideraby damaged.

And now let me add some disclaimers : this is gonna mention names and this is gonna talk about recent arguments. I don't care if I get a warning for addressing this, it is needed at the moment, and if nobody dares to get some dirt on their hands this situation won't improve. Welp guess it's gonna be me.

Community before 2022
There weren't as many dramas back then. I wasn't here before 2020, 2020 got its dramas but it was overall much better. 2021 was a quite good year. You probably heard about the princesslucky situation... girl gone mad along with supersaga and it all stopped once she got banned. The community was overall better and the dramas were not as frequent. Now let's move on to where it got worse...

2022.
2022 was the year when Fways resigned as an admin, 2022 was the year when new moderators got added. The wave of new users happened and it started quite badly with Jey against Fways, an argument that.. could have just been avoided. The moderator scene was quite busy with many people applying. BJ03 and Max got selected. And Max... is gonna be mentioned much later in his own section. For now we willll ignore the recent events, and say he was a chilll person.

It also marked the arrival of the minimodding and of the nitpick era. Not a good thing if you ask me, and I was a major part of the problem. Now this has ceased, since Nudge, me, and Max hardly give a fuck about it, and it's better that way.

Names
Now we are getting to 2023 and I'm going to mention names because I can't really recall what happened when... but I can recall who did what.

KirbyBoy
Probably the most slandered dude on MKPC, he's even got a hate train at the time. What he did wasn't that much though, it was creating lots of unfunny memes (to the level of spam) and complaining about various things. He took more than he deserved. His spam of memes was definitively annoying and irrelevant, but I'll say it loud and clear : we overreacted about him. He was still immature and not taking any advice... but we might have made feel belittled for something that honestly, we took too seriously, and I feel bad.

Bluey
Spam of memes that didn't even try and ultimate stubbornness, KB without the complaints and without the hate train and the slander.

Tendo
Not a heart filled with harm but extremely harmful actions. He started his shit back in 2022, what he did was mainly creating alts that had racist names (FuckUkraine, etc.) Alts that seeked attention (they had their tea salon moment and created a whole story on sfa for literally nothing.) Alts that pretended to be someone else (his brother) and that used homophoic slurs (faggot).

He was very annoying throughout the whole existence he had here, acted immaturely, went against rules and didn't care because he was the kind of dude to criticize every one of em... and he also posted a lot of useless messages. A dude who didn't bully anyone, but what he did was still terrible and he got permanently banned, despite trying to come back many times, by ban evading, but with time people got more and more suspicious and better at finding out who's Tendo and who's not.

That was stupid and annoying, and our poor reactions to that didn't quite help the situation. But there's still more to say.

Coopa/Finigi/ThePanFlute
It would be a lie to say his recent slight glowup made him perfect, but it would be a lie to say it is non-existent. That man literally posted way too many messages, irrelevant and useless ones, and was overall quite immature and annoying. He became provocative at some point too and did a lot of shit after one of his bans (he got banned twice) but overall I can't really recall everything properly. I know that my reactions to that might have been way too much, and I won't say I was overall feeling good at that time, but it's searching excuses and I'm ready to take this part of the blame. But let's move on eventually, he's becoming better by the day.

48HourKet
This dude was literally just a rude person to almost everyone and used insults too many times. Until that moment we couldn't really lay a finger on him because he didn't broke the rules or anything. But then, he started fatshaming someone he didn't even know (which makes no sense) and wished death upon people.

Although Pianta agreed with his views (not his messages and I got the personal confirmation) most people found him to be violent and annoying, to the extent that after wishing death and fatshaming upon several people for absolutely no reason, Ryubix permanently banned him for once and for good, without any sanctions before.

Me/Max/Pianta
Yup yup, there has also been a whole problem going on and I was the center of it. April has been filled of it : fights between Max, me and Pianta. And it was ENDLESS ! Because we were too stubborn,
I admit... and I was wound up at that time so I also took everything badly, add that to language barriers and you've got a catastrophe scenario. It eventually got fixed with BJ03 creating a topic about the matters because it was really going to be endless... I apologize if I created problems during that period. But for now, let's move on and get on the recent side of things.

Suprothetteglerr/SCG
Literally a lot of spam and useless messages for nothing, immature actions and annoying behavior. But those people? Let me tell you ? They aren't very important. They did some problems on this website but they aren't the ones who pushed me to writing this very long climax.

I could say things about Chilli who played the victim and tried to shade other people and got mad at other people for nothing. Or even Jey (more in detail) for his whole drama story from March to June 2022. Or even the Jey/orchid/anthcny endless situation... But let's get onto the current problem...

The whole PrimeTime situation
Yup. And I'm going to say it loud and clear ; the PT movement was on the thin edge since the mere beginning. It was all about to fall down into the depths and it eventually did with ONE investigation.

I already knew it was fragile. PT arrived here and literally was known as the dude who invited Yoshizilla to play online and eventually made that person mad. But with time he arrived back as a rude and tough person. And then he started praising literally most people on this website. It soon became a movement: the positivity spreading movement. On the paper it sounds quite good, but the execution was poor, since everything was all too much. And I wanted to express how fragile it was, but I didn't want to cause an argument, because the PT stans tend to be delusional and blinded.

Notably with HonorableMentions, the girl who had beef with me for no absolute reason. I slightly criticized a topic she made and she got mad over it. This started mutual beef and we had to discuss during hours to fix it in private. But it wasn't fixed... since she eventually called Wal a snake for the investigation he did about PT's age. Nodac also supported HM and PT. This trio was supporting every of the members and it ended up by a ban to HM and that's it.

No that's not it. PrimeTime got mad over that and started to become way more violent and way more sexually explicit in the way he talked. He started to shade SuperYoshiKart, who was always criticized by the trio. That was an useless thing to do. And it just showed, that everything Wal and I said was right. I once said that this was just a positive persona that they put on and Wal once said he was too immature to be the wise man he pretends to be at 55.

Welp, if he really wanted to spread positivity, why did he start to spread negativity once his movement failed due to all the immaturity people had in the recent arguments? Why did we went from "Y'ALL ARE LEGENDS AND EVERYDAY HERE FEELS LIKE A BIRTHDAY BECAUSE OUR MOVEMENT MAKES THIS SITE SO POSITIVE OMG IT FEELS SO GOOD" to "CALLING OUT THE BUTT LICKING CROTCH SNIFFING RAT I WILL ROCK HIM IN THE JAW HIM WITH HIS MOMMA" ?

This whole PT movement seems like one of those dreams that don't actually make sense. Something that already feels old and rotten now. Something that you believe on at first, but that then deceives you. It doesn't make sense when you think about it. Everybody believed in PT's positivity movement, more or less. But if we're going to formulate it like him during this era "the job of helping champions to everyday become better people seems to have token a toll on him." Or in other words, his whole persona fell all down when we got enough things to ban one of his friends. Might as well not lie huh ? Because still using the words "champions" and etc. is great but useless, I'm telling you. People won't follow you now that you showed how much of a violent prick you can be. Hiding yourself behind a veil of lies is not going to help anything. We saw your true colors and there's no going back now.

And the staff, the poor staff had to handle this. They had to handle what no absolute staff member wishes to ; a senseless, violent and hot headed argument where nearly nobody is right yet almost everybody takes part in. Max didn't even understand any of the bullshit and just sent it to the other staff members.

This summarizes why most of the older staff leaves and why most of the older players either leave or don't spend much time here anymore. Fways and Mudky are very active on MKPC Discord servers. Because even if Discord has bad sides its so much better than it is here right now. If there's an argument it's settled rapidly and it tends to be way less frequent. People also take the jokes better since it's a more mature branch of people. But on here, everyone will go crazy over nothing and everyone will overreact and run around like headless sheeps that lost each other...

Even Max is part of the problem. Arguments with Pianta and with many other people, especially on Discord, even with me sometimes. Moderators need to be calm and make people feel secure and not create any problems, turns out Max tends to do the opposite to the burnout this job has given him.

Solutions
We need new staff to help the current team. Infi and Ahmad are much more active on Discord than on here, Ahmad being the only one at some point. Fways is just an event host, Ryubix is all focused on events, Wargor on making the game better. That leaves us with two : Max, who feels insecure and burnt out, and BJ, screwed over by the timezones, which makes him asleep at the most critical times and awake at the most empty times. Applications would be a good idea.

We also need to all take a chill pill and keep this light in our heads that reminds us about this argument so it doesn't restart again. I already did essays and climaxes before to fix small problems but this one really had to talk about every single recent problem so we could figure a solution out.

This website is worsening by the minute and it's terrible how the Discord part is so much better. No ban hammer that is always talked about by some people but never dared to be used by those same people. Chill staff, more mature people and senseful arguments.

This community is becoming so bad and bad and even worse than I thought it ever could. When I think it cannot gets worse, it just does. And now the website is constantly either ultra boring, on the edge, or problematic. While the precedent years were nothing like that. I'm not even here that much due to 2 months long vacation but as far as I saw this is the worst this community has ever been. It's messy asf.

I think that we can also take a look at the 2018 times. Lower activity, people liked each other, no senseless arguments, a friendly ambiance, many events, news and etc. To a MKPC today where projects are hardly done and where it's really just... shit.

I guess I'm off, I really needed to get this off my chest. Sorry if it's too long ig...
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Messages 1034 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
vs29534 pts ★ Legend
battle6835 pts ★ Racer
Australia
Ive_Invu wrote:
This community is not going well...
I definitively think it's not a secret anymore: This community is going quite unwell.

And by quite, I mean more, but let's get into that in detail so we can all understand what has been going on and find actual solutions, because nothing is going on and the site can't become any worse or its sake will be consideraby damaged.

And now let me add some disclaimers : this is gonna mention names and this is gonna talk about recent arguments. I don't care if I get a warning for addressing this, it is needed at the moment, and if nobody dares to get some dirt on their hands this situation won't improve. Welp guess it's gonna be me.

Community before 2022
There weren't as many dramas back then. I wasn't here before 2020, 2020 got its dramas but it was overall much better. 2021 was a quite good year. You probably heard about the princesslucky situation... girl gone mad along with supersaga and it all stopped once she got banned. The community was overall better and the dramas were not as frequent. Now let's move on to where it got worse...

2022.
2022 was the year when Fways resigned as an admin, 2022 was the year when new moderators got added. The wave of new users happened and it started quite badly with Jey against Fways, an argument that.. could have just been avoided. The moderator scene was quite busy with many people applying. BJ03 and Max got selected. And Max... is gonna be mentioned much later in his own section. For now we willll ignore the recent events, and say he was a chilll person.

It also marked the arrival of the minimodding and of the nitpick era. Not a good thing if you ask me, and I was a major part of the problem. Now this has ceased, since Nudge, me, and Max hardly give a fuck about it, and it's better that way.

Names
Now we are getting to 2023 and I'm going to mention names because I can't really recall what happened when... but I can recall who did what.

KirbyBoy
Probably the most slandered dude on MKPC, he's even got a hate train at the time. What he did wasn't that much though, it was creating lots of unfunny memes (to the level of spam) and complaining about various things. He took more than he deserved. His spam of memes was definitively annoying and irrelevant, but I'll say it loud and clear : we overreacted about him. He was still immature and not taking any advice... but we might have made feel belittled for something that honestly, we took too seriously, and I feel bad.

Bluey
Spam of memes that didn't even try and ultimate stubbornness, KB without the complaints and without the hate train and the slander.

Tendo
Not a heart filled with harm but extremely harmful actions. He started his shit back in 2022, what he did was mainly creating alts that had racist names (FuckUkraine, etc.) Alts that seeked attention (they had their tea salon moment and created a whole story on sfa for literally nothing.) Alts that pretended to be someone else (his brother) and that used homophoic slurs (faggot).

He was very annoying throughout the whole existence he had here, acted immaturely, went against rules and didn't care because he was the kind of dude to criticize every one of em... and he also posted a lot of useless messages. A dude who didn't bully anyone, but what he did was still terrible and he got permanently banned, despite trying to come back many times, by ban evading, but with time people got more and more suspicious and better at finding out who's Tendo and who's not.

That was stupid and annoying, and our poor reactions to that didn't quite help the situation. But there's still more to say.

Coopa/Finigi/ThePanFlute
It would be a lie to say his recent slight glowup made him perfect, but it would be a lie to say it is non-existent. That man literally posted way too many messages, irrelevant and useless ones, and was overall quite immature and annoying. He became provocative at some point too and did a lot of shit after one of his bans (he got banned twice) but overall I can't really recall everything properly. I know that my reactions to that might have been way too much, and I won't say I was overall feeling good at that time, but it's searching excuses and I'm ready to take this part of the blame. But let's move on eventually, he's becoming better by the day.

48HourKet
This dude was literally just a rude person to almost everyone and used insults too many times. Until that moment we couldn't really lay a finger on him because he didn't broke the rules or anything. But then, he started fatshaming someone he didn't even know (which makes no sense) and wished death upon people.

Although Pianta agreed with his views (not his messages and I got the personal confirmation) most people found him to be violent and annoying, to the extent that after wishing death and fatshaming upon several people for absolutely no reason, Ryubix permanently banned him for once and for good, without any sanctions before.

Me/Max/Pianta
Yup yup, there has also been a whole problem going on and I was the center of it. April has been filled of it : fights between Max, me and Pianta. And it was ENDLESS ! Because we were too stubborn,
I admit... and I was wound up at that time so I also took everything badly, add that to language barriers and you've got a catastrophe scenario. It eventually got fixed with BJ03 creating a topic about the matters because it was really going to be endless... I apologize if I created problems during that period. But for now, let's move on and get on the recent side of things.

Suprothetteglerr/SCG
Literally a lot of spam and useless messages for nothing, immature actions and annoying behavior. But those people? Let me tell you ? They aren't very important. They did some problems on this website but they aren't the ones who pushed me to writing this very long climax.

I could say things about Chilli who played the victim and tried to shade other people and got mad at other people for nothing. Or even Jey (more in detail) for his whole drama story from March to June 2022. Or even the Jey/orchid/anthcny endless situation... But let's get onto the current problem...

The whole PrimeTime situation
Yup. And I'm going to say it loud and clear ; the PT movement was on the thin edge since the mere beginning. It was all about to fall down into the depths and it eventually did with ONE investigation.

I already knew it was fragile. PT arrived here and literally was known as the dude who invited Yoshizilla to play online and eventually made that person mad. But with time he arrived back as a rude and tough person. And then he started praising literally most people on this website. It soon became a movement: the positivity spreading movement. On the paper it sounds quite good, but the execution was poor, since everything was all too much. And I wanted to express how fragile it was, but I didn't want to cause an argument, because the PT stans tend to be delusional and blinded.

Notably with HonorableMentions, the girl who had beef with me for no absolute reason. I slightly criticized a topic she made and she got mad over it. This started mutual beef and we had to discuss during hours to fix it in private. But it wasn't fixed... since she eventually called Wal a snake for the investigation he did about PT's age. Nodac also supported HM and PT. This trio was supporting every of the members and it ended up by a ban to HM and that's it.

No that's not it. PrimeTime got mad over that and started to become way more violent and way more sexually explicit in the way he talked. He started to shade SuperYoshiKart, who was always criticized by the trio. That was an useless thing to do. And it just showed, that everything Wal and I said was right. I once said that this was just a positive persona that they put on and Wal once said he was too immature to be the wise man he pretends to be at 55.

Welp, if he really wanted to spread positivity, why did he start to spread negativity once his movement failed due to all the immaturity people had in the recent arguments? Why did we went from "Y'ALL ARE LEGENDS AND EVERYDAY HERE FEELS LIKE A BIRTHDAY BECAUSE OUR MOVEMENT MAKES THIS SITE SO POSITIVE OMG IT FEELS SO GOOD" to "CALLING OUT THE BUTT LICKING CROTCH SNIFFING RAT I WILL ROCK HIM IN THE JAW HIM WITH HIS MOMMA" ?

This whole PT movement seems like one of those dreams that don't actually make sense. Something that already feels old and rotten now. Something that you believe on at first, but that then deceives you. It doesn't make sense when you think about it. Everybody believed in PT's positivity movement, more or less. But if we're going to formulate it like him during this era "the job of helping champions to everyday become better people seems to have token a toll on him." Or in other words, his whole persona fell all down when we got enough things to ban one of his friends. Might as well not lie huh ? Because still using the words "champions" and etc. is great but useless, I'm telling you. People won't follow you now that you showed how much of a violent prick you can be. Hiding yourself behind a veil of lies is not going to help anything. We saw your true colors and there's no going back now.

And the staff, the poor staff had to handle this. They had to handle what no absolute staff member wishes to ; a senseless, violent and hot headed argument where nearly nobody is right yet almost everybody takes part in. Max didn't even understand any of the bullshit and just sent it to the other staff members.

This summarizes why most of the older staff leaves and why most of the older players either leave or don't spend much time here anymore. Fways and Mudky are very active on MKPC Discord servers. Because even if Discord has bad sides its so much better than it is here right now. If there's an argument it's settled rapidly and it tends to be way less frequent. People also take the jokes better since it's a more mature branch of people. But on here, everyone will go crazy over nothing and everyone will overreact and run around like headless sheeps that lost each other...

Even Max is part of the problem. Arguments with Pianta and with many other people, especially on Discord, even with me sometimes. Moderators need to be calm and make people feel secure and not create any problems, turns out Max tends to do the opposite to the burnout this job has given him.

Solutions
We need new staff to help the current team. Infi and Ahmad are much more active on Discord than on here, Ahmad being the only one at some point. Fways is just an event host, Ryubix is all focused on events, Wargor on making the game better. That leaves us with two : Max, who feels insecure and burnt out, and BJ, screwed over by the timezones, which makes him asleep at the most critical times and awake at the most empty times. Applications would be a good idea.

We also need to all take a chill pill and keep this light in our heads that reminds us about this argument so it doesn't restart again. I already did essays and climaxes before to fix small problems but this one really had to talk about every single recent problem so we could figure a solution out.

This website is worsening by the minute and it's terrible how the Discord part is so much better. No ban hammer that is always talked about by some people but never dared to be used by those same people. Chill staff, more mature people and senseful arguments.

This community is becoming so bad and bad and even worse than I thought it ever could. When I think it cannot gets worse, it just does. And now the website is constantly either ultra boring, on the edge, or problematic. While the precedent years were nothing like that. I'm not even here that much due to 2 months long vacation but as far as I saw this is the worst this community has ever been. It's messy asf.

I think that we can also take a look at the 2018 times. Lower activity, people liked each other, no senseless arguments, a friendly ambiance, many events, news and etc. To a MKPC today where projects are hardly done and where it's really just... shit.

I guess I'm off, I really needed to get this off my chest. Sorry if it's too long ig...


I agree with all of this tbh, dramas are becoming too frequent, and most of them are over nothing. I also feel like people are sending stuff on the forums for the sake of getting the message count up, which I suppose isn't bad but has just gotten to an unnecessary point.

I also think Max's stress partially derives from him being the one who deals with most of the issues, and it's pretty much impossible to deal with rebellious 10yo kids without being annoyed. I suppose I'm gonna have to be cracking down on bad behaviour in the future, so uhh take this as a warning ig.

Also, you guys realise that the site is called MKPC, I believe there's a game that's connected to this site, maybe you guys should check it out :p
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Messages 10882 - King Mario King Mario
vs35265 pts ★ Legend
battle6102 pts ★ Racer
France
BowserJr03 wrote:
Ive_Invu wrote:
This community is not going well...
I definitively think it's not a secret anymore: This community is going quite unwell.

And by quite, I mean more, but let's get into that in detail so we can all understand what has been going on and find actual solutions, because nothing is going on and the site can't become any worse or its sake will be consideraby damaged.

And now let me add some disclaimers : this is gonna mention names and this is gonna talk about recent arguments. I don't care if I get a warning for addressing this, it is needed at the moment, and if nobody dares to get some dirt on their hands this situation won't improve. Welp guess it's gonna be me.

Community before 2022
There weren't as many dramas back then. I wasn't here before 2020, 2020 got its dramas but it was overall much better. 2021 was a quite good year. You probably heard about the princesslucky situation... girl gone mad along with supersaga and it all stopped once she got banned. The community was overall better and the dramas were not as frequent. Now let's move on to where it got worse...

2022.
2022 was the year when Fways resigned as an admin, 2022 was the year when new moderators got added. The wave of new users happened and it started quite badly with Jey against Fways, an argument that.. could have just been avoided. The moderator scene was quite busy with many people applying. BJ03 and Max got selected. And Max... is gonna be mentioned much later in his own section. For now we willll ignore the recent events, and say he was a chilll person.

It also marked the arrival of the minimodding and of the nitpick era. Not a good thing if you ask me, and I was a major part of the problem. Now this has ceased, since Nudge, me, and Max hardly give a fuck about it, and it's better that way.

Names
Now we are getting to 2023 and I'm going to mention names because I can't really recall what happened when... but I can recall who did what.

KirbyBoy
Probably the most slandered dude on MKPC, he's even got a hate train at the time. What he did wasn't that much though, it was creating lots of unfunny memes (to the level of spam) and complaining about various things. He took more than he deserved. His spam of memes was definitively annoying and irrelevant, but I'll say it loud and clear : we overreacted about him. He was still immature and not taking any advice... but we might have made feel belittled for something that honestly, we took too seriously, and I feel bad.

Bluey
Spam of memes that didn't even try and ultimate stubbornness, KB without the complaints and without the hate train and the slander.

Tendo
Not a heart filled with harm but extremely harmful actions. He started his shit back in 2022, what he did was mainly creating alts that had racist names (FuckUkraine, etc.) Alts that seeked attention (they had their tea salon moment and created a whole story on sfa for literally nothing.) Alts that pretended to be someone else (his brother) and that used homophoic slurs (faggot).

He was very annoying throughout the whole existence he had here, acted immaturely, went against rules and didn't care because he was the kind of dude to criticize every one of em... and he also posted a lot of useless messages. A dude who didn't bully anyone, but what he did was still terrible and he got permanently banned, despite trying to come back many times, by ban evading, but with time people got more and more suspicious and better at finding out who's Tendo and who's not.

That was stupid and annoying, and our poor reactions to that didn't quite help the situation. But there's still more to say.

Coopa/Finigi/ThePanFlute
It would be a lie to say his recent slight glowup made him perfect, but it would be a lie to say it is non-existent. That man literally posted way too many messages, irrelevant and useless ones, and was overall quite immature and annoying. He became provocative at some point too and did a lot of shit after one of his bans (he got banned twice) but overall I can't really recall everything properly. I know that my reactions to that might have been way too much, and I won't say I was overall feeling good at that time, but it's searching excuses and I'm ready to take this part of the blame. But let's move on eventually, he's becoming better by the day.

48HourKet
This dude was literally just a rude person to almost everyone and used insults too many times. Until that moment we couldn't really lay a finger on him because he didn't broke the rules or anything. But then, he started fatshaming someone he didn't even know (which makes no sense) and wished death upon people.

Although Pianta agreed with his views (not his messages and I got the personal confirmation) most people found him to be violent and annoying, to the extent that after wishing death and fatshaming upon several people for absolutely no reason, Ryubix permanently banned him for once and for good, without any sanctions before.

Me/Max/Pianta
Yup yup, there has also been a whole problem going on and I was the center of it. April has been filled of it : fights between Max, me and Pianta. And it was ENDLESS ! Because we were too stubborn,
I admit... and I was wound up at that time so I also took everything badly, add that to language barriers and you've got a catastrophe scenario. It eventually got fixed with BJ03 creating a topic about the matters because it was really going to be endless... I apologize if I created problems during that period. But for now, let's move on and get on the recent side of things.

Suprothetteglerr/SCG
Literally a lot of spam and useless messages for nothing, immature actions and annoying behavior. But those people? Let me tell you ? They aren't very important. They did some problems on this website but they aren't the ones who pushed me to writing this very long climax.

I could say things about Chilli who played the victim and tried to shade other people and got mad at other people for nothing. Or even Jey (more in detail) for his whole drama story from March to June 2022. Or even the Jey/orchid/anthcny endless situation... But let's get onto the current problem...

The whole PrimeTime situation
Yup. And I'm going to say it loud and clear ; the PT movement was on the thin edge since the mere beginning. It was all about to fall down into the depths and it eventually did with ONE investigation.

I already knew it was fragile. PT arrived here and literally was known as the dude who invited Yoshizilla to play online and eventually made that person mad. But with time he arrived back as a rude and tough person. And then he started praising literally most people on this website. It soon became a movement: the positivity spreading movement. On the paper it sounds quite good, but the execution was poor, since everything was all too much. And I wanted to express how fragile it was, but I didn't want to cause an argument, because the PT stans tend to be delusional and blinded.

Notably with HonorableMentions, the girl who had beef with me for no absolute reason. I slightly criticized a topic she made and she got mad over it. This started mutual beef and we had to discuss during hours to fix it in private. But it wasn't fixed... since she eventually called Wal a snake for the investigation he did about PT's age. Nodac also supported HM and PT. This trio was supporting every of the members and it ended up by a ban to HM and that's it.

No that's not it. PrimeTime got mad over that and started to become way more violent and way more sexually explicit in the way he talked. He started to shade SuperYoshiKart, who was always criticized by the trio. That was an useless thing to do. And it just showed, that everything Wal and I said was right. I once said that this was just a positive persona that they put on and Wal once said he was too immature to be the wise man he pretends to be at 55.

Welp, if he really wanted to spread positivity, why did he start to spread negativity once his movement failed due to all the immaturity people had in the recent arguments? Why did we went from "Y'ALL ARE LEGENDS AND EVERYDAY HERE FEELS LIKE A BIRTHDAY BECAUSE OUR MOVEMENT MAKES THIS SITE SO POSITIVE OMG IT FEELS SO GOOD" to "CALLING OUT THE BUTT LICKING CROTCH SNIFFING RAT I WILL ROCK HIM IN THE JAW HIM WITH HIS MOMMA" ?

This whole PT movement seems like one of those dreams that don't actually make sense. Something that already feels old and rotten now. Something that you believe on at first, but that then deceives you. It doesn't make sense when you think about it. Everybody believed in PT's positivity movement, more or less. But if we're going to formulate it like him during this era "the job of helping champions to everyday become better people seems to have token a toll on him." Or in other words, his whole persona fell all down when we got enough things to ban one of his friends. Might as well not lie huh ? Because still using the words "champions" and etc. is great but useless, I'm telling you. People won't follow you now that you showed how much of a violent prick you can be. Hiding yourself behind a veil of lies is not going to help anything. We saw your true colors and there's no going back now.

And the staff, the poor staff had to handle this. They had to handle what no absolute staff member wishes to ; a senseless, violent and hot headed argument where nearly nobody is right yet almost everybody takes part in. Max didn't even understand any of the bullshit and just sent it to the other staff members.

This summarizes why most of the older staff leaves and why most of the older players either leave or don't spend much time here anymore. Fways and Mudky are very active on MKPC Discord servers. Because even if Discord has bad sides its so much better than it is here right now. If there's an argument it's settled rapidly and it tends to be way less frequent. People also take the jokes better since it's a more mature branch of people. But on here, everyone will go crazy over nothing and everyone will overreact and run around like headless sheeps that lost each other...

Even Max is part of the problem. Arguments with Pianta and with many other people, especially on Discord, even with me sometimes. Moderators need to be calm and make people feel secure and not create any problems, turns out Max tends to do the opposite to the burnout this job has given him.

Solutions
We need new staff to help the current team. Infi and Ahmad are much more active on Discord than on here, Ahmad being the only one at some point. Fways is just an event host, Ryubix is all focused on events, Wargor on making the game better. That leaves us with two : Max, who feels insecure and burnt out, and BJ, screwed over by the timezones, which makes him asleep at the most critical times and awake at the most empty times. Applications would be a good idea.

We also need to all take a chill pill and keep this light in our heads that reminds us about this argument so it doesn't restart again. I already did essays and climaxes before to fix small problems but this one really had to talk about every single recent problem so we could figure a solution out.

This website is worsening by the minute and it's terrible how the Discord part is so much better. No ban hammer that is always talked about by some people but never dared to be used by those same people. Chill staff, more mature people and senseful arguments.

This community is becoming so bad and bad and even worse than I thought it ever could. When I think it cannot gets worse, it just does. And now the website is constantly either ultra boring, on the edge, or problematic. While the precedent years were nothing like that. I'm not even here that much due to 2 months long vacation but as far as I saw this is the worst this community has ever been. It's messy asf.

I think that we can also take a look at the 2018 times. Lower activity, people liked each other, no senseless arguments, a friendly ambiance, many events, news and etc. To a MKPC today where projects are hardly done and where it's really just... shit.

I guess I'm off, I really needed to get this off my chest. Sorry if it's too long ig...


I agree with all of this tbh, dramas are becoming too frequent, and most of them are over nothing. I also feel like people are sending stuff on the forums for the sake of getting the message count up, which I suppose isn't bad but has just gotten to an unnecessary point.

I also think Max's stress partially derives from him being the one who deals with most of the issues, and it's pretty much impossible to deal with rebellious 10yo kids without being annoyed. I suppose I'm gonna have to be cracking down on bad behaviour in the future, so uhh take this as a warning ig.

Also, you guys realise that the site is called MKPC, I believe there's a game that's connected to this site, maybe you guys should check it out :p

Yeah, Max also dealt with a lot of backlash at his beginning because he wasn't meeting expectations. And honestly it was never easy for him, which I accept. For the message count, totally... some people are just posting a lot to say not much at the end of the actual day.. and about the game I would but I'm on phone :c
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Ive_Invu wrote:

The whole PrimeTime situation
Yup. And I'm going to say it loud and clear ; the PT movement was on the thin edge since the mere beginning. It was all about to fall down into the depths and it eventually did with ONE investigation.

I already knew it was fragile. PT arrived here and literally was known as the dude who invited Yoshizilla to play online and eventually made that person mad. But with time he arrived back as a rude and tough person. And then he started praising literally most people on this website. It soon became a movement: the positivity spreading movement. On the paper it sounds quite good, but the execution was poor, since everything was all too much. And I wanted to express how fragile it was, but I didn't want to cause an argument, because the PT stans tend to be delusional and blinded.

Notably with HonorableMentions, the girl who had beef with me for no absolute reason. I slightly criticized a topic she made and she got mad over it. This started mutual beef and we had to discuss during hours to fix it in private. But it wasn't fixed... since she eventually called Wal a snake for the investigation he did about PT's age. Nodac also supported HM and PT. This trio was supporting every of the members and it ended up by a ban to HM and that's it.

No that's not it. PrimeTime got mad over that and started to become way more violent and way more sexually explicit in the way he talked. He started to shade SuperYoshiKart, who was always criticized by the trio. That was an useless thing to do. And it just showed, that everything Wal and I said was right. I once said that this was just a positive persona that they put on and Wal once said he was too immature to be the wise man he pretends to be at 55.

Welp, if he really wanted to spread positivity, why did he start to spread negativity once his movement failed due to all the immaturity people had in the recent arguments? Why did we went from "Y'ALL ARE LEGENDS AND EVERYDAY HERE FEELS LIKE A BIRTHDAY BECAUSE OUR MOVEMENT MAKES THIS SITE SO POSITIVE OMG IT FEELS SO GOOD" to "CALLING OUT THE BUTT LICKING CROTCH SNIFFING RAT I WILL ROCK HIM IN THE JAW HIM WITH HIS MOMMA" ?

This whole PT movement seems like one of those dreams that don't actually make sense. Something that already feels old and rotten now. Something that you believe on at first, but that then deceives you. It doesn't make sense when you think about it. Everybody believed in PT's positivity movement, more or less. But if we're going to formulate it like him during this era "the job of helping champions to everyday become better people seems to have token a toll on him." Or in other words, his whole persona fell all down when we got enough things to ban one of his friends. Might as well not lie huh ? Because still using the words "champions" and etc. is great but useless, I'm telling you. People won't follow you now that you showed how much of a violent prick you can be. Hiding yourself behind a veil of lies is not going to help anything. We saw your true colors and there's no going back now.

And the staff, the poor staff had to handle this. They had to handle what no absolute staff member wishes to ; a senseless, violent and hot headed argument where nearly nobody is right yet almost everybody takes part in. Max didn't even understand any of the bullshit and just sent it to the other staff members.

This summarizes why most of the older staff leaves and why most of the older players either leave or don't spend much time here anymore. Fways and Mudky are very active on MKPC Discord servers. Because even if Discord has bad sides its so much better than it is here right now. If there's an argument it's settled rapidly and it tends to be way less frequent. People also take the jokes better since it's a more mature branch of people. But on here, everyone will go crazy over nothing and everyone will overreact and run around like headless sheeps that lost each other...

Even Max is part of the problem. Arguments with Pianta and with many other people, especially on Discord, even with me sometimes. Moderators need to be calm and make people feel secure and not create any problems, turns out Max tends to do the opposite to the burnout this job has given him.

Solutions
We need new staff to help the current team. Infi and Ahmad are much more active on Discord than on here, Ahmad being the only one at some point. Fways is just an event host, Ryubix is all focused on events, Wargor on making the game better. That leaves us with two : Max, who feels insecure and burnt out, and BJ, screwed over by the timezones, which makes him asleep at the most critical times and awake at the most empty times. Applications would be a good idea.

We also need to all take a chill pill and keep this light in our heads that reminds us about this argument so it doesn't restart again. I already did essays and climaxes before to fix small problems but this one really had to talk about every single recent problem so we could figure a solution out.

This website is worsening by the minute and it's terrible how the Discord part is so much better. No ban hammer that is always talked about by some people but never dared to be used by those same people. Chill staff, more mature people and senseful arguments.

This community is becoming so bad and bad and even worse than I thought it ever could. When I think it cannot gets worse, it just does. And now the website is constantly either ultra boring, on the edge, or problematic. While the precedent years were nothing like that. I'm not even here that much due to 2 months long vacation but as far as I saw this is the worst this community has ever been. It's messy asf.

I think that we can also take a look at the 2018 times. Lower activity, people liked each other, no senseless arguments, a friendly ambiance, many events, news and etc. To a MKPC today where projects are hardly done and where it's really just... shit.

I guess I'm off, I really needed to get this off my chest. Sorry if it's too long ig...

HM
I honestly don't know how me and HM started hating each other, but it got to the point where we would argue off of dumb shit.
HM was just a negative person to me like one example I made a joke about some random shit I don't remember about, but HM got made over that and then arguments.
I will try to find it later.
PrimeTime
I found PT as a good person in the beginning of him, but as time wen't on He started to talk shit about me and acts like HM was the victim and also said shit that honestly hurt my feelings.
Of course being me didn't share feelings.
About Me (SYK)
I feel like shit now Bc of what HM and PT said about me.
I feel like I was the target of those 2 in late July.
I was one nice person from Nov-June but then July 14 came.
TRPT's fake report about me
when I found this topic I was horrified that I was going to get banned from a False Report.
Then after that of course being me, I didn't share feelings with anyone and that didn't help, and that made me look bad after that.
I'm also here to say an apology
I'm sorry that I was shit in July-August.
Those arguments made me a whole different person.
Now looking back I'm like "why did I make this message?"or"Why am I doing this"
Hope you can accept this and bye.

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Ive_Invu wrote:
This community is not going well...
I definitively think it's not a secret anymore: This community is going quite unwell.

And by quite, I mean more, but let's get into that in detail so we can all understand what has been going on and find actual solutions, because nothing is going on and the site can't become any worse or its sake will be consideraby damaged.

And now let me add some disclaimers : this is gonna mention names and this is gonna talk about recent arguments. I don't care if I get a warning for addressing this, it is needed at the moment, and if nobody dares to get some dirt on their hands this situation won't improve. Welp guess it's gonna be me.

Community before 2022
There weren't as many dramas back then. I wasn't here before 2020, 2020 got its dramas but it was overall much better. 2021 was a quite good year. You probably heard about the princesslucky situation... girl gone mad along with supersaga and it all stopped once she got banned. The community was overall better and the dramas were not as frequent. Now let's move on to where it got worse...

2022.
2022 was the year when Fways resigned as an admin, 2022 was the year when new moderators got added. The wave of new users happened and it started quite badly with Jey against Fways, an argument that.. could have just been avoided. The moderator scene was quite busy with many people applying. BJ03 and Max got selected. And Max... is gonna be mentioned much later in his own section. For now we willll ignore the recent events, and say he was a chilll person.

It also marked the arrival of the minimodding and of the nitpick era. Not a good thing if you ask me, and I was a major part of the problem. Now this has ceased, since Nudge, me, and Max hardly give a fuck about it, and it's better that way.

Names
Now we are getting to 2023 and I'm going to mention names because I can't really recall what happened when... but I can recall who did what.

KirbyBoy
Probably the most slandered dude on MKPC, he's even got a hate train at the time. What he did wasn't that much though, it was creating lots of unfunny memes (to the level of spam) and complaining about various things. He took more than he deserved. His spam of memes was definitively annoying and irrelevant, but I'll say it loud and clear : we overreacted about him. He was still immature and not taking any advice... but we might have made feel belittled for something that honestly, we took too seriously, and I feel bad.

Bluey
Spam of memes that didn't even try and ultimate stubbornness, KB without the complaints and without the hate train and the slander.

Tendo
Not a heart filled with harm but extremely harmful actions. He started his shit back in 2022, what he did was mainly creating alts that had racist names (FuckUkraine, etc.) Alts that seeked attention (they had their tea salon moment and created a whole story on sfa for literally nothing.) Alts that pretended to be someone else (his brother) and that used homophoic slurs (faggot).

He was very annoying throughout the whole existence he had here, acted immaturely, went against rules and didn't care because he was the kind of dude to criticize every one of em... and he also posted a lot of useless messages. A dude who didn't bully anyone, but what he did was still terrible and he got permanently banned, despite trying to come back many times, by ban evading, but with time people got more and more suspicious and better at finding out who's Tendo and who's not.

That was stupid and annoying, and our poor reactions to that didn't quite help the situation. But there's still more to say.

Coopa/Finigi/ThePanFlute
It would be a lie to say his recent slight glowup made him perfect, but it would be a lie to say it is non-existent. That man literally posted way too many messages, irrelevant and useless ones, and was overall quite immature and annoying. He became provocative at some point too and did a lot of shit after one of his bans (he got banned twice) but overall I can't really recall everything properly. I know that my reactions to that might have been way too much, and I won't say I was overall feeling good at that time, but it's searching excuses and I'm ready to take this part of the blame. But let's move on eventually, he's becoming better by the day.

48HourKet
This dude was literally just a rude person to almost everyone and used insults too many times. Until that moment we couldn't really lay a finger on him because he didn't broke the rules or anything. But then, he started fatshaming someone he didn't even know (which makes no sense) and wished death upon people.

Although Pianta agreed with his views (not his messages and I got the personal confirmation) most people found him to be violent and annoying, to the extent that after wishing death and fatshaming upon several people for absolutely no reason, Ryubix permanently banned him for once and for good, without any sanctions before.

Me/Max/Pianta
Yup yup, there has also been a whole problem going on and I was the center of it. April has been filled of it : fights between Max, me and Pianta. And it was ENDLESS ! Because we were too stubborn,
I admit... and I was wound up at that time so I also took everything badly, add that to language barriers and you've got a catastrophe scenario. It eventually got fixed with BJ03 creating a topic about the matters because it was really going to be endless... I apologize if I created problems during that period. But for now, let's move on and get on the recent side of things.

Suprothetteglerr/SCG
Literally a lot of spam and useless messages for nothing, immature actions and annoying behavior. But those people? Let me tell you ? They aren't very important. They did some problems on this website but they aren't the ones who pushed me to writing this very long climax.

I could say things about Chilli who played the victim and tried to shade other people and got mad at other people for nothing. Or even Jey (more in detail) for his whole drama story from March to June 2022. Or even the Jey/orchid/anthcny endless situation... But let's get onto the current problem...

The whole PrimeTime situation
Yup. And I'm going to say it loud and clear ; the PT movement was on the thin edge since the mere beginning. It was all about to fall down into the depths and it eventually did with ONE investigation.

I already knew it was fragile. PT arrived here and literally was known as the dude who invited Yoshizilla to play online and eventually made that person mad. But with time he arrived back as a rude and tough person. And then he started praising literally most people on this website. It soon became a movement: the positivity spreading movement. On the paper it sounds quite good, but the execution was poor, since everything was all too much. And I wanted to express how fragile it was, but I didn't want to cause an argument, because the PT stans tend to be delusional and blinded.

Notably with HonorableMentions, the girl who had beef with me for no absolute reason. I slightly criticized a topic she made and she got mad over it. This started mutual beef and we had to discuss during hours to fix it in private. But it wasn't fixed... since she eventually called Wal a snake for the investigation he did about PT's age. Nodac also supported HM and PT. This trio was supporting every of the members and it ended up by a ban to HM and that's it.

No that's not it. PrimeTime got mad over that and started to become way more violent and way more sexually explicit in the way he talked. He started to shade SuperYoshiKart, who was always criticized by the trio. That was an useless thing to do. And it just showed, that everything Wal and I said was right. I once said that this was just a positive persona that they put on and Wal once said he was too immature to be the wise man he pretends to be at 55.

Welp, if he really wanted to spread positivity, why did he start to spread negativity once his movement failed due to all the immaturity people had in the recent arguments? Why did we went from "Y'ALL ARE LEGENDS AND EVERYDAY HERE FEELS LIKE A BIRTHDAY BECAUSE OUR MOVEMENT MAKES THIS SITE SO POSITIVE OMG IT FEELS SO GOOD" to "CALLING OUT THE BUTT LICKING CROTCH SNIFFING RAT I WILL ROCK HIM IN THE JAW HIM WITH HIS MOMMA" ?

This whole PT movement seems like one of those dreams that don't actually make sense. Something that already feels old and rotten now. Something that you believe on at first, but that then deceives you. It doesn't make sense when you think about it. Everybody believed in PT's positivity movement, more or less. But if we're going to formulate it like him during this era "the job of helping champions to everyday become better people seems to have token a toll on him." Or in other words, his whole persona fell all down when we got enough things to ban one of his friends. Might as well not lie huh ? Because still using the words "champions" and etc. is great but useless, I'm telling you. People won't follow you now that you showed how much of a violent prick you can be. Hiding yourself behind a veil of lies is not going to help anything. We saw your true colors and there's no going back now.

And the staff, the poor staff had to handle this. They had to handle what no absolute staff member wishes to ; a senseless, violent and hot headed argument where nearly nobody is right yet almost everybody takes part in. Max didn't even understand any of the bullshit and just sent it to the other staff members.

This summarizes why most of the older staff leaves and why most of the older players either leave or don't spend much time here anymore. Fways and Mudky are very active on MKPC Discord servers. Because even if Discord has bad sides its so much better than it is here right now. If there's an argument it's settled rapidly and it tends to be way less frequent. People also take the jokes better since it's a more mature branch of people. But on here, everyone will go crazy over nothing and everyone will overreact and run around like headless sheeps that lost each other...

Even Max is part of the problem. Arguments with Pianta and with many other people, especially on Discord, even with me sometimes. Moderators need to be calm and make people feel secure and not create any problems, turns out Max tends to do the opposite to the burnout this job has given him.

Solutions
We need new staff to help the current team. Infi and Ahmad are much more active on Discord than on here, Ahmad being the only one at some point. Fways is just an event host, Ryubix is all focused on events, Wargor on making the game better. That leaves us with two : Max, who feels insecure and burnt out, and BJ, screwed over by the timezones, which makes him asleep at the most critical times and awake at the most empty times. Applications would be a good idea.

We also need to all take a chill pill and keep this light in our heads that reminds us about this argument so it doesn't restart again. I already did essays and climaxes before to fix small problems but this one really had to talk about every single recent problem so we could figure a solution out.

This website is worsening by the minute and it's terrible how the Discord part is so much better. No ban hammer that is always talked about by some people but never dared to be used by those same people. Chill staff, more mature people and senseful arguments.

This community is becoming so bad and bad and even worse than I thought it ever could. When I think it cannot gets worse, it just does. And now the website is constantly either ultra boring, on the edge, or problematic. While the precedent years were nothing like that. I'm not even here that much due to 2 months long vacation but as far as I saw this is the worst this community has ever been. It's messy asf.

I think that we can also take a look at the 2018 times. Lower activity, people liked each other, no senseless arguments, a friendly ambiance, many events, news and etc. To a MKPC today where projects are hardly done and where it's really just... shit.

I guess I'm off, I really needed to get this off my chest. Sorry if it's too long ig...

We do not speak of Princesslucky
xd4
koopa1
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France
osc-omb wrote:
Ive_Invu wrote:
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This community is not going well...
I definitively think it's not a secret anymore: This community is going quite unwell.

And by quite, I mean more, but let's get into that in detail so we can all understand what has been going on and find actual solutions, because nothing is going on and the site can't become any worse or its sake will be consideraby damaged.

And now let me add some disclaimers : this is gonna mention names and this is gonna talk about recent arguments. I don't care if I get a warning for addressing this, it is needed at the moment, and if nobody dares to get some dirt on their hands this situation won't improve. Welp guess it's gonna be me.

Community before 2022
There weren't as many dramas back then. I wasn't here before 2020, 2020 got its dramas but it was overall much better. 2021 was a quite good year. You probably heard about the princesslucky situation... girl gone mad along with supersaga and it all stopped once she got banned. The community was overall better and the dramas were not as frequent. Now let's move on to where it got worse...

2022.
2022 was the year when Fways resigned as an admin, 2022 was the year when new moderators got added. The wave of new users happened and it started quite badly with Jey against Fways, an argument that.. could have just been avoided. The moderator scene was quite busy with many people applying. BJ03 and Max got selected. And Max... is gonna be mentioned much later in his own section. For now we willll ignore the recent events, and say he was a chilll person.

It also marked the arrival of the minimodding and of the nitpick era. Not a good thing if you ask me, and I was a major part of the problem. Now this has ceased, since Nudge, me, and Max hardly give a fuck about it, and it's better that way.

Names
Now we are getting to 2023 and I'm going to mention names because I can't really recall what happened when... but I can recall who did what.

KirbyBoy
Probably the most slandered dude on MKPC, he's even got a hate train at the time. What he did wasn't that much though, it was creating lots of unfunny memes (to the level of spam) and complaining about various things. He took more than he deserved. His spam of memes was definitively annoying and irrelevant, but I'll say it loud and clear : we overreacted about him. He was still immature and not taking any advice... but we might have made feel belittled for something that honestly, we took too seriously, and I feel bad.

Bluey
Spam of memes that didn't even try and ultimate stubbornness, KB without the complaints and without the hate train and the slander.

Tendo
Not a heart filled with harm but extremely harmful actions. He started his shit back in 2022, what he did was mainly creating alts that had racist names (FuckUkraine, etc.) Alts that seeked attention (they had their tea salon moment and created a whole story on sfa for literally nothing.) Alts that pretended to be someone else (his brother) and that used homophoic slurs (faggot).

He was very annoying throughout the whole existence he had here, acted immaturely, went against rules and didn't care because he was the kind of dude to criticize every one of em... and he also posted a lot of useless messages. A dude who didn't bully anyone, but what he did was still terrible and he got permanently banned, despite trying to come back many times, by ban evading, but with time people got more and more suspicious and better at finding out who's Tendo and who's not.

That was stupid and annoying, and our poor reactions to that didn't quite help the situation. But there's still more to say.

Coopa/Finigi/ThePanFlute
It would be a lie to say his recent slight glowup made him perfect, but it would be a lie to say it is non-existent. That man literally posted way too many messages, irrelevant and useless ones, and was overall quite immature and annoying. He became provocative at some point too and did a lot of shit after one of his bans (he got banned twice) but overall I can't really recall everything properly. I know that my reactions to that might have been way too much, and I won't say I was overall feeling good at that time, but it's searching excuses and I'm ready to take this part of the blame. But let's move on eventually, he's becoming better by the day.

48HourKet
This dude was literally just a rude person to almost everyone and used insults too many times. Until that moment we couldn't really lay a finger on him because he didn't broke the rules or anything. But then, he started fatshaming someone he didn't even know (which makes no sense) and wished death upon people.

Although Pianta agreed with his views (not his messages and I got the personal confirmation) most people found him to be violent and annoying, to the extent that after wishing death and fatshaming upon several people for absolutely no reason, Ryubix permanently banned him for once and for good, without any sanctions before.

Me/Max/Pianta
Yup yup, there has also been a whole problem going on and I was the center of it. April has been filled of it : fights between Max, me and Pianta. And it was ENDLESS ! Because we were too stubborn,
I admit... and I was wound up at that time so I also took everything badly, add that to language barriers and you've got a catastrophe scenario. It eventually got fixed with BJ03 creating a topic about the matters because it was really going to be endless... I apologize if I created problems during that period. But for now, let's move on and get on the recent side of things.

Suprothetteglerr/SCG
Literally a lot of spam and useless messages for nothing, immature actions and annoying behavior. But those people? Let me tell you ? They aren't very important. They did some problems on this website but they aren't the ones who pushed me to writing this very long climax.

I could say things about Chilli who played the victim and tried to shade other people and got mad at other people for nothing. Or even Jey (more in detail) for his whole drama story from March to June 2022. Or even the Jey/orchid/anthcny endless situation... But let's get onto the current problem...

The whole PrimeTime situation
Yup. And I'm going to say it loud and clear ; the PT movement was on the thin edge since the mere beginning. It was all about to fall down into the depths and it eventually did with ONE investigation.

I already knew it was fragile. PT arrived here and literally was known as the dude who invited Yoshizilla to play online and eventually made that person mad. But with time he arrived back as a rude and tough person. And then he started praising literally most people on this website. It soon became a movement: the positivity spreading movement. On the paper it sounds quite good, but the execution was poor, since everything was all too much. And I wanted to express how fragile it was, but I didn't want to cause an argument, because the PT stans tend to be delusional and blinded.

Notably with HonorableMentions, the girl who had beef with me for no absolute reason. I slightly criticized a topic she made and she got mad over it. This started mutual beef and we had to discuss during hours to fix it in private. But it wasn't fixed... since she eventually called Wal a snake for the investigation he did about PT's age. Nodac also supported HM and PT. This trio was supporting every of the members and it ended up by a ban to HM and that's it.

No that's not it. PrimeTime got mad over that and started to become way more violent and way more sexually explicit in the way he talked. He started to shade SuperYoshiKart, who was always criticized by the trio. That was an useless thing to do. And it just showed, that everything Wal and I said was right. I once said that this was just a positive persona that they put on and Wal once said he was too immature to be the wise man he pretends to be at 55.

Welp, if he really wanted to spread positivity, why did he start to spread negativity once his movement failed due to all the immaturity people had in the recent arguments? Why did we went from "Y'ALL ARE LEGENDS AND EVERYDAY HERE FEELS LIKE A BIRTHDAY BECAUSE OUR MOVEMENT MAKES THIS SITE SO POSITIVE OMG IT FEELS SO GOOD" to "CALLING OUT THE BUTT LICKING CROTCH SNIFFING RAT I WILL ROCK HIM IN THE JAW HIM WITH HIS MOMMA" ?

This whole PT movement seems like one of those dreams that don't actually make sense. Something that already feels old and rotten now. Something that you believe on at first, but that then deceives you. It doesn't make sense when you think about it. Everybody believed in PT's positivity movement, more or less. But if we're going to formulate it like him during this era "the job of helping champions to everyday become better people seems to have token a toll on him." Or in other words, his whole persona fell all down when we got enough things to ban one of his friends. Might as well not lie huh ? Because still using the words "champions" and etc. is great but useless, I'm telling you. People won't follow you now that you showed how much of a violent prick you can be. Hiding yourself behind a veil of lies is not going to help anything. We saw your true colors and there's no going back now.

And the staff, the poor staff had to handle this. They had to handle what no absolute staff member wishes to ; a senseless, violent and hot headed argument where nearly nobody is right yet almost everybody takes part in. Max didn't even understand any of the bullshit and just sent it to the other staff members.

This summarizes why most of the older staff leaves and why most of the older players either leave or don't spend much time here anymore. Fways and Mudky are very active on MKPC Discord servers. Because even if Discord has bad sides its so much better than it is here right now. If there's an argument it's settled rapidly and it tends to be way less frequent. People also take the jokes better since it's a more mature branch of people. But on here, everyone will go crazy over nothing and everyone will overreact and run around like headless sheeps that lost each other...

Even Max is part of the problem. Arguments with Pianta and with many other people, especially on Discord, even with me sometimes. Moderators need to be calm and make people feel secure and not create any problems, turns out Max tends to do the opposite to the burnout this job has given him.

Solutions
We need new staff to help the current team. Infi and Ahmad are much more active on Discord than on here, Ahmad being the only one at some point. Fways is just an event host, Ryubix is all focused on events, Wargor on making the game better. That leaves us with two : Max, who feels insecure and burnt out, and BJ, screwed over by the timezones, which makes him asleep at the most critical times and awake at the most empty times. Applications would be a good idea.

We also need to all take a chill pill and keep this light in our heads that reminds us about this argument so it doesn't restart again. I already did essays and climaxes before to fix small problems but this one really had to talk about every single recent problem so we could figure a solution out.

This website is worsening by the minute and it's terrible how the Discord part is so much better. No ban hammer that is always talked about by some people but never dared to be used by those same people. Chill staff, more mature people and senseful arguments.

This community is becoming so bad and bad and even worse than I thought it ever could. When I think it cannot gets worse, it just does. And now the website is constantly either ultra boring, on the edge, or problematic. While the precedent years were nothing like that. I'm not even here that much due to 2 months long vacation but as far as I saw this is the worst this community has ever been. It's messy asf.

I think that we can also take a look at the 2018 times. Lower activity, people liked each other, no senseless arguments, a friendly ambiance, many events, news and etc. To a MKPC today where projects are hardly done and where it's really just... shit.

I guess I'm off, I really needed to get this off my chest. Sorry if it's too long ig...

We do not speak of Princesslucky

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This community is not going well...
I definitively think it's not a secret anymore: This community is going quite unwell.

And by quite, I mean more, but let's get into that in detail so we can all understand what has been going on and find actual solutions, because nothing is going on and the site can't become any worse or its sake will be consideraby damaged.

And now let me add some disclaimers : this is gonna mention names and this is gonna talk about recent arguments. I don't care if I get a warning for addressing this, it is needed at the moment, and if nobody dares to get some dirt on their hands this situation won't improve. Welp guess it's gonna be me.

Community before 2022
There weren't as many dramas back then. I wasn't here before 2020, 2020 got its dramas but it was overall much better. 2021 was a quite good year. You probably heard about the princesslucky situation... girl gone mad along with supersaga and it all stopped once she got banned. The community was overall better and the dramas were not as frequent. Now let's move on to where it got worse...

2022.
2022 was the year when Fways resigned as an admin, 2022 was the year when new moderators got added. The wave of new users happened and it started quite badly with Jey against Fways, an argument that.. could have just been avoided. The moderator scene was quite busy with many people applying. BJ03 and Max got selected. And Max... is gonna be mentioned much later in his own section. For now we willll ignore the recent events, and say he was a chilll person.

It also marked the arrival of the minimodding and of the nitpick era. Not a good thing if you ask me, and I was a major part of the problem. Now this has ceased, since Nudge, me, and Max hardly give a fuck about it, and it's better that way.

Names
Now we are getting to 2023 and I'm going to mention names because I can't really recall what happened when... but I can recall who did what.

KirbyBoy
Probably the most slandered dude on MKPC, he's even got a hate train at the time. What he did wasn't that much though, it was creating lots of unfunny memes (to the level of spam) and complaining about various things. He took more than he deserved. His spam of memes was definitively annoying and irrelevant, but I'll say it loud and clear : we overreacted about him. He was still immature and not taking any advice... but we might have made feel belittled for something that honestly, we took too seriously, and I feel bad.

Bluey
Spam of memes that didn't even try and ultimate stubbornness, KB without the complaints and without the hate train and the slander.

Tendo
Not a heart filled with harm but extremely harmful actions. He started his shit back in 2022, what he did was mainly creating alts that had racist names (FuckUkraine, etc.) Alts that seeked attention (they had their tea salon moment and created a whole story on sfa for literally nothing.) Alts that pretended to be someone else (his brother) and that used homophoic slurs (faggot).

He was very annoying throughout the whole existence he had here, acted immaturely, went against rules and didn't care because he was the kind of dude to criticize every one of em... and he also posted a lot of useless messages. A dude who didn't bully anyone, but what he did was still terrible and he got permanently banned, despite trying to come back many times, by ban evading, but with time people got more and more suspicious and better at finding out who's Tendo and who's not.

That was stupid and annoying, and our poor reactions to that didn't quite help the situation. But there's still more to say.

Coopa/Finigi/ThePanFlute
It would be a lie to say his recent slight glowup made him perfect, but it would be a lie to say it is non-existent. That man literally posted way too many messages, irrelevant and useless ones, and was overall quite immature and annoying. He became provocative at some point too and did a lot of shit after one of his bans (he got banned twice) but overall I can't really recall everything properly. I know that my reactions to that might have been way too much, and I won't say I was overall feeling good at that time, but it's searching excuses and I'm ready to take this part of the blame. But let's move on eventually, he's becoming better by the day.

48HourKet
This dude was literally just a rude person to almost everyone and used insults too many times. Until that moment we couldn't really lay a finger on him because he didn't broke the rules or anything. But then, he started fatshaming someone he didn't even know (which makes no sense) and wished death upon people.

Although Pianta agreed with his views (not his messages and I got the personal confirmation) most people found him to be violent and annoying, to the extent that after wishing death and fatshaming upon several people for absolutely no reason, Ryubix permanently banned him for once and for good, without any sanctions before.

Me/Max/Pianta
Yup yup, there has also been a whole problem going on and I was the center of it. April has been filled of it : fights between Max, me and Pianta. And it was ENDLESS ! Because we were too stubborn,
I admit... and I was wound up at that time so I also took everything badly, add that to language barriers and you've got a catastrophe scenario. It eventually got fixed with BJ03 creating a topic about the matters because it was really going to be endless... I apologize if I created problems during that period. But for now, let's move on and get on the recent side of things.

Suprothetteglerr/SCG
Literally a lot of spam and useless messages for nothing, immature actions and annoying behavior. But those people? Let me tell you ? They aren't very important. They did some problems on this website but they aren't the ones who pushed me to writing this very long climax.

I could say things about Chilli who played the victim and tried to shade other people and got mad at other people for nothing. Or even Jey (more in detail) for his whole drama story from March to June 2022. Or even the Jey/orchid/anthcny endless situation... But let's get onto the current problem...

The whole PrimeTime situation
Yup. And I'm going to say it loud and clear ; the PT movement was on the thin edge since the mere beginning. It was all about to fall down into the depths and it eventually did with ONE investigation.

I already knew it was fragile. PT arrived here and literally was known as the dude who invited Yoshizilla to play online and eventually made that person mad. But with time he arrived back as a rude and tough person. And then he started praising literally most people on this website. It soon became a movement: the positivity spreading movement. On the paper it sounds quite good, but the execution was poor, since everything was all too much. And I wanted to express how fragile it was, but I didn't want to cause an argument, because the PT stans tend to be delusional and blinded.

Notably with HonorableMentions, the girl who had beef with me for no absolute reason. I slightly criticized a topic she made and she got mad over it. This started mutual beef and we had to discuss during hours to fix it in private. But it wasn't fixed... since she eventually called Wal a snake for the investigation he did about PT's age. Nodac also supported HM and PT. This trio was supporting every of the members and it ended up by a ban to HM and that's it.

No that's not it. PrimeTime got mad over that and started to become way more violent and way more sexually explicit in the way he talked. He started to shade SuperYoshiKart, who was always criticized by the trio. That was an useless thing to do. And it just showed, that everything Wal and I said was right. I once said that this was just a positive persona that they put on and Wal once said he was too immature to be the wise man he pretends to be at 55.

Welp, if he really wanted to spread positivity, why did he start to spread negativity once his movement failed due to all the immaturity people had in the recent arguments? Why did we went from "Y'ALL ARE LEGENDS AND EVERYDAY HERE FEELS LIKE A BIRTHDAY BECAUSE OUR MOVEMENT MAKES THIS SITE SO POSITIVE OMG IT FEELS SO GOOD" to "CALLING OUT THE BUTT LICKING CROTCH SNIFFING RAT I WILL ROCK HIM IN THE JAW HIM WITH HIS MOMMA" ?

This whole PT movement seems like one of those dreams that don't actually make sense. Something that already feels old and rotten now. Something that you believe on at first, but that then deceives you. It doesn't make sense when you think about it. Everybody believed in PT's positivity movement, more or less. But if we're going to formulate it like him during this era "the job of helping champions to everyday become better people seems to have token a toll on him." Or in other words, his whole persona fell all down when we got enough things to ban one of his friends. Might as well not lie huh ? Because still using the words "champions" and etc. is great but useless, I'm telling you. People won't follow you now that you showed how much of a violent prick you can be. Hiding yourself behind a veil of lies is not going to help anything. We saw your true colors and there's no going back now.

And the staff, the poor staff had to handle this. They had to handle what no absolute staff member wishes to ; a senseless, violent and hot headed argument where nearly nobody is right yet almost everybody takes part in. Max didn't even understand any of the bullshit and just sent it to the other staff members.

This summarizes why most of the older staff leaves and why most of the older players either leave or don't spend much time here anymore. Fways and Mudky are very active on MKPC Discord servers. Because even if Discord has bad sides its so much better than it is here right now. If there's an argument it's settled rapidly and it tends to be way less frequent. People also take the jokes better since it's a more mature branch of people. But on here, everyone will go crazy over nothing and everyone will overreact and run around like headless sheeps that lost each other...

Even Max is part of the problem. Arguments with Pianta and with many other people, especially on Discord, even with me sometimes. Moderators need to be calm and make people feel secure and not create any problems, turns out Max tends to do the opposite to the burnout this job has given him.

Solutions
We need new staff to help the current team. Infi and Ahmad are much more active on Discord than on here, Ahmad being the only one at some point. Fways is just an event host, Ryubix is all focused on events, Wargor on making the game better. That leaves us with two : Max, who feels insecure and burnt out, and BJ, screwed over by the timezones, which makes him asleep at the most critical times and awake at the most empty times. Applications would be a good idea.

We also need to all take a chill pill and keep this light in our heads that reminds us about this argument so it doesn't restart again. I already did essays and climaxes before to fix small problems but this one really had to talk about every single recent problem so we could figure a solution out.

This website is worsening by the minute and it's terrible how the Discord part is so much better. No ban hammer that is always talked about by some people but never dared to be used by those same people. Chill staff, more mature people and senseful arguments.

This community is becoming so bad and bad and even worse than I thought it ever could. When I think it cannot gets worse, it just does. And now the website is constantly either ultra boring, on the edge, or problematic. While the precedent years were nothing like that. I'm not even here that much due to 2 months long vacation but as far as I saw this is the worst this community has ever been. It's messy asf.

I think that we can also take a look at the 2018 times. Lower activity, people liked each other, no senseless arguments, a friendly ambiance, many events, news and etc. To a MKPC today where projects are hardly done and where it's really just... shit.

I guess I'm off, I really needed to get this off my chest. Sorry if it's too long ig...

We do not speak of Princesslucky

too late
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Ive_Invu wrote:
This community is not going well...
I definitively think it's not a secret anymore: This community is going quite unwell.

And by quite, I mean more, but let's get into that in detail so we can all understand what has been going on and find actual solutions, because nothing is going on and the site can't become any worse or its sake will be consideraby damaged.

And now let me add some disclaimers : this is gonna mention names and this is gonna talk about recent arguments. I don't care if I get a warning for addressing this, it is needed at the moment, and if nobody dares to get some dirt on their hands this situation won't improve. Welp guess it's gonna be me.

Community before 2022
There weren't as many dramas back then. I wasn't here before 2020, 2020 got its dramas but it was overall much better. 2021 was a quite good year. You probably heard about the princesslucky situation... girl gone mad along with supersaga and it all stopped once she got banned. The community was overall better and the dramas were not as frequent. Now let's move on to where it got worse...

2022.
2022 was the year when Fways resigned as an admin, 2022 was the year when new moderators got added. The wave of new users happened and it started quite badly with Jey against Fways, an argument that.. could have just been avoided. The moderator scene was quite busy with many people applying. BJ03 and Max got selected. And Max... is gonna be mentioned much later in his own section. For now we willll ignore the recent events, and say he was a chilll person.

It also marked the arrival of the minimodding and of the nitpick era. Not a good thing if you ask me, and I was a major part of the problem. Now this has ceased, since Nudge, me, and Max hardly give a fuck about it, and it's better that way.

Names
Now we are getting to 2023 and I'm going to mention names because I can't really recall what happened when... but I can recall who did what.

KirbyBoy
Probably the most slandered dude on MKPC, he's even got a hate train at the time. What he did wasn't that much though, it was creating lots of unfunny memes (to the level of spam) and complaining about various things. He took more than he deserved. His spam of memes was definitively annoying and irrelevant, but I'll say it loud and clear : we overreacted about him. He was still immature and not taking any advice... but we might have made feel belittled for something that honestly, we took too seriously, and I feel bad.

Bluey
Spam of memes that didn't even try and ultimate stubbornness, KB without the complaints and without the hate train and the slander.

Tendo
Not a heart filled with harm but extremely harmful actions. He started his shit back in 2022, what he did was mainly creating alts that had racist names (FuckUkraine, etc.) Alts that seeked attention (they had their tea salon moment and created a whole story on sfa for literally nothing.) Alts that pretended to be someone else (his brother) and that used homophoic slurs (faggot).

He was very annoying throughout the whole existence he had here, acted immaturely, went against rules and didn't care because he was the kind of dude to criticize every one of em... and he also posted a lot of useless messages. A dude who didn't bully anyone, but what he did was still terrible and he got permanently banned, despite trying to come back many times, by ban evading, but with time people got more and more suspicious and better at finding out who's Tendo and who's not.

That was stupid and annoying, and our poor reactions to that didn't quite help the situation. But there's still more to say.

Coopa/Finigi/ThePanFlute
It would be a lie to say his recent slight glowup made him perfect, but it would be a lie to say it is non-existent. That man literally posted way too many messages, irrelevant and useless ones, and was overall quite immature and annoying. He became provocative at some point too and did a lot of shit after one of his bans (he got banned twice) but overall I can't really recall everything properly. I know that my reactions to that might have been way too much, and I won't say I was overall feeling good at that time, but it's searching excuses and I'm ready to take this part of the blame. But let's move on eventually, he's becoming better by the day.

48HourKet
This dude was literally just a rude person to almost everyone and used insults too many times. Until that moment we couldn't really lay a finger on him because he didn't broke the rules or anything. But then, he started fatshaming someone he didn't even know (which makes no sense) and wished death upon people.

Although Pianta agreed with his views (not his messages and I got the personal confirmation) most people found him to be violent and annoying, to the extent that after wishing death and fatshaming upon several people for absolutely no reason, Ryubix permanently banned him for once and for good, without any sanctions before.

Me/Max/Pianta
Yup yup, there has also been a whole problem going on and I was the center of it. April has been filled of it : fights between Max, me and Pianta. And it was ENDLESS ! Because we were too stubborn,
I admit... and I was wound up at that time so I also took everything badly, add that to language barriers and you've got a catastrophe scenario. It eventually got fixed with BJ03 creating a topic about the matters because it was really going to be endless... I apologize if I created problems during that period. But for now, let's move on and get on the recent side of things.

Suprothetteglerr/SCG
Literally a lot of spam and useless messages for nothing, immature actions and annoying behavior. But those people? Let me tell you ? They aren't very important. They did some problems on this website but they aren't the ones who pushed me to writing this very long climax.

I could say things about Chilli who played the victim and tried to shade other people and got mad at other people for nothing. Or even Jey (more in detail) for his whole drama story from March to June 2022. Or even the Jey/orchid/anthcny endless situation... But let's get onto the current problem...

The whole PrimeTime situation
Yup. And I'm going to say it loud and clear ; the PT movement was on the thin edge since the mere beginning. It was all about to fall down into the depths and it eventually did with ONE investigation.

I already knew it was fragile. PT arrived here and literally was known as the dude who invited Yoshizilla to play online and eventually made that person mad. But with time he arrived back as a rude and tough person. And then he started praising literally most people on this website. It soon became a movement: the positivity spreading movement. On the paper it sounds quite good, but the execution was poor, since everything was all too much. And I wanted to express how fragile it was, but I didn't want to cause an argument, because the PT stans tend to be delusional and blinded.

Notably with HonorableMentions, the girl who had beef with me for no absolute reason. I slightly criticized a topic she made and she got mad over it. This started mutual beef and we had to discuss during hours to fix it in private. But it wasn't fixed... since she eventually called Wal a snake for the investigation he did about PT's age. Nodac also supported HM and PT. This trio was supporting every of the members and it ended up by a ban to HM and that's it.

No that's not it. PrimeTime got mad over that and started to become way more violent and way more sexually explicit in the way he talked. He started to shade SuperYoshiKart, who was always criticized by the trio. That was an useless thing to do. And it just showed, that everything Wal and I said was right. I once said that this was just a positive persona that they put on and Wal once said he was too immature to be the wise man he pretends to be at 55.

Welp, if he really wanted to spread positivity, why did he start to spread negativity once his movement failed due to all the immaturity people had in the recent arguments? Why did we went from "Y'ALL ARE LEGENDS AND EVERYDAY HERE FEELS LIKE A BIRTHDAY BECAUSE OUR MOVEMENT MAKES THIS SITE SO POSITIVE OMG IT FEELS SO GOOD" to "CALLING OUT THE BUTT LICKING CROTCH SNIFFING RAT I WILL ROCK HIM IN THE JAW HIM WITH HIS MOMMA" ?

This whole PT movement seems like one of those dreams that don't actually make sense. Something that already feels old and rotten now. Something that you believe on at first, but that then deceives you. It doesn't make sense when you think about it. Everybody believed in PT's positivity movement, more or less. But if we're going to formulate it like him during this era "the job of helping champions to everyday become better people seems to have token a toll on him." Or in other words, his whole persona fell all down when we got enough things to ban one of his friends. Might as well not lie huh ? Because still using the words "champions" and etc. is great but useless, I'm telling you. People won't follow you now that you showed how much of a violent prick you can be. Hiding yourself behind a veil of lies is not going to help anything. We saw your true colors and there's no going back now.

And the staff, the poor staff had to handle this. They had to handle what no absolute staff member wishes to ; a senseless, violent and hot headed argument where nearly nobody is right yet almost everybody takes part in. Max didn't even understand any of the bullshit and just sent it to the other staff members.

This summarizes why most of the older staff leaves and why most of the older players either leave or don't spend much time here anymore. Fways and Mudky are very active on MKPC Discord servers. Because even if Discord has bad sides its so much better than it is here right now. If there's an argument it's settled rapidly and it tends to be way less frequent. People also take the jokes better since it's a more mature branch of people. But on here, everyone will go crazy over nothing and everyone will overreact and run around like headless sheeps that lost each other...

Even Max is part of the problem. Arguments with Pianta and with many other people, especially on Discord, even with me sometimes. Moderators need to be calm and make people feel secure and not create any problems, turns out Max tends to do the opposite to the burnout this job has given him.

Solutions
We need new staff to help the current team. Infi and Ahmad are much more active on Discord than on here, Ahmad being the only one at some point. Fways is just an event host, Ryubix is all focused on events, Wargor on making the game better. That leaves us with two : Max, who feels insecure and burnt out, and BJ, screwed over by the timezones, which makes him asleep at the most critical times and awake at the most empty times. Applications would be a good idea.

We also need to all take a chill pill and keep this light in our heads that reminds us about this argument so it doesn't restart again. I already did essays and climaxes before to fix small problems but this one really had to talk about every single recent problem so we could figure a solution out.

This website is worsening by the minute and it's terrible how the Discord part is so much better. No ban hammer that is always talked about by some people but never dared to be used by those same people. Chill staff, more mature people and senseful arguments.

This community is becoming so bad and bad and even worse than I thought it ever could. When I think it cannot gets worse, it just does. And now the website is constantly either ultra boring, on the edge, or problematic. While the precedent years were nothing like that. I'm not even here that much due to 2 months long vacation but as far as I saw this is the worst this community has ever been. It's messy asf.

I think that we can also take a look at the 2018 times. Lower activity, people liked each other, no senseless arguments, a friendly ambiance, many events, news and etc. To a MKPC today where projects are hardly done and where it's really just... shit.

I guess I'm off, I really needed to get this off my chest. Sorry if it's too long ig...

My take on everyone you've mentioned:

KirbyBoy -  Just straight up immature, I don't harbor grudges against him though, I just find his memes bad.

Bluey - I forgot this guy even existed tbh, he was essentially a copy/paste of KirbyBoy imo.

Tendo - Ehh, it's a mixed bag tbh, however I do hold a grudge against him (for reasons I will not disclose here) - also saying shit like 'FUCK THAT FAGGOT' was completely uncalled for, like is he completely oblivious to the fact that members will take offense just by seeing the word alone?

Coopa - Has redeemed himself recently but before he was another clone of KirbyBoy basically (idk who came first)

48HourKet - Okay, this may sound harsh of me but I actually wanna kill this guy. He legit fatshamed my girlfriend and essentially told her to kill herself. It's been months and I still hold a grudge, and tbh I probably will until true justice is served to that disgusting whorish pile of bullshit.

The Pianta situation - As Tox pointed out before, it's mainly a language barrier issue. There was clearly some miscommunication as both Lely and Max know less English slang than some members here. The way Pianta took the whole thing could've been avoided though tbh.

SCG - Basically 2022 Coopa but worse.

Chilli - Basically 2022 Coopa but actually has some redeeming qualities (not going into detail about the whole SlanderedByThoseHaters bullshit).

Jey - Not to be rude, but imo I think he takes things a bit too personally sometimes. But hey, everyone has flaws ig.

PrimeTime: Okay, I wanna say something, more a confession here, I knew this whole peace thing was complete and utter bollocks. It seemed far too unrealistic imo, I just said nothing because I didn't wanna receive backlash, but that's beyond the point. The point is that PT hasn't necessarily left a positive mark on MKPC either. Him and his entourage have a load of beef with SuperYoshiKart, understandably it pisses me off when my friends get slandered. I tried to alleviate the situation, but I apologize if I seemed harsh or condescending. The thing about PT is I'm just surprised he's not been banned tbh.

HonorableMentions: Okay, she pisses me off more than PT. She's rude, snarky, snide and just immature. She liked to bully anyone who was 'rude' to PT (basically me, SYK, Wal68 etc.) when in fact we're trying to defuze the drama.

Wal68: Okay I have nothing against Wal68, I will say that the way he's been treated, especially by HM and PT was totally uncalled for. He literally just got over being suicidal and then he got suicidal again cause of HM and PT. Thanks a lot, you toxic motherfuckers.

Max: Okay I get he's autistic but some of the things he's gotten himself into lately could have definitely been avoided, or at the very least, defuzed before an explosion. I understand his situation as someone who was diagnozed with autism myself, however.


My opinion on what to do from here on out: If you're new or have no idea what's going on, I get that you may wanna defuze things but please take a step back and think carefully before posting. We all need to calm down here, and try to instead move on from this drama rather than cling onto it for dear life.


EDIT: Okay Lely, Osc, please stop spam-reacting now. Calm down. Nintendo hasn't tracked MKPC down. The world isn't ending. The universe is still intact. It's okay.
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This community is not going well...
I definitively think it's not a secret anymore: This community is going quite unwell.

And by quite, I mean more, but let's get into that in detail so we can all understand what has been going on and find actual solutions, because nothing is going on and the site can't become any worse or its sake will be consideraby damaged.

And now let me add some disclaimers : this is gonna mention names and this is gonna talk about recent arguments. I don't care if I get a warning for addressing this, it is needed at the moment, and if nobody dares to get some dirt on their hands this situation won't improve. Welp guess it's gonna be me.

Community before 2022
There weren't as many dramas back then. I wasn't here before 2020, 2020 got its dramas but it was overall much better. 2021 was a quite good year. You probably heard about the princesslucky situation... girl gone mad along with supersaga and it all stopped once she got banned. The community was overall better and the dramas were not as frequent. Now let's move on to where it got worse...

2022.
2022 was the year when Fways resigned as an admin, 2022 was the year when new moderators got added. The wave of new users happened and it started quite badly with Jey against Fways, an argument that.. could have just been avoided. The moderator scene was quite busy with many people applying. BJ03 and Max got selected. And Max... is gonna be mentioned much later in his own section. For now we willll ignore the recent events, and say he was a chilll person.

It also marked the arrival of the minimodding and of the nitpick era. Not a good thing if you ask me, and I was a major part of the problem. Now this has ceased, since Nudge, me, and Max hardly give a fuck about it, and it's better that way.

Names
Now we are getting to 2023 and I'm going to mention names because I can't really recall what happened when... but I can recall who did what.

KirbyBoy
Probably the most slandered dude on MKPC, he's even got a hate train at the time. What he did wasn't that much though, it was creating lots of unfunny memes (to the level of spam) and complaining about various things. He took more than he deserved. His spam of memes was definitively annoying and irrelevant, but I'll say it loud and clear : we overreacted about him. He was still immature and not taking any advice... but we might have made feel belittled for something that honestly, we took too seriously, and I feel bad.

Bluey
Spam of memes that didn't even try and ultimate stubbornness, KB without the complaints and without the hate train and the slander.

Tendo
Not a heart filled with harm but extremely harmful actions. He started his shit back in 2022, what he did was mainly creating alts that had racist names (FuckUkraine, etc.) Alts that seeked attention (they had their tea salon moment and created a whole story on sfa for literally nothing.) Alts that pretended to be someone else (his brother) and that used homophoic slurs (faggot).

He was very annoying throughout the whole existence he had here, acted immaturely, went against rules and didn't care because he was the kind of dude to criticize every one of em... and he also posted a lot of useless messages. A dude who didn't bully anyone, but what he did was still terrible and he got permanently banned, despite trying to come back many times, by ban evading, but with time people got more and more suspicious and better at finding out who's Tendo and who's not.

That was stupid and annoying, and our poor reactions to that didn't quite help the situation. But there's still more to say.

Coopa/Finigi/ThePanFlute
It would be a lie to say his recent slight glowup made him perfect, but it would be a lie to say it is non-existent. That man literally posted way too many messages, irrelevant and useless ones, and was overall quite immature and annoying. He became provocative at some point too and did a lot of shit after one of his bans (he got banned twice) but overall I can't really recall everything properly. I know that my reactions to that might have been way too much, and I won't say I was overall feeling good at that time, but it's searching excuses and I'm ready to take this part of the blame. But let's move on eventually, he's becoming better by the day.

48HourKet
This dude was literally just a rude person to almost everyone and used insults too many times. Until that moment we couldn't really lay a finger on him because he didn't broke the rules or anything. But then, he started fatshaming someone he didn't even know (which makes no sense) and wished death upon people.

Although Pianta agreed with his views (not his messages and I got the personal confirmation) most people found him to be violent and annoying, to the extent that after wishing death and fatshaming upon several people for absolutely no reason, Ryubix permanently banned him for once and for good, without any sanctions before.

Me/Max/Pianta
Yup yup, there has also been a whole problem going on and I was the center of it. April has been filled of it : fights between Max, me and Pianta. And it was ENDLESS ! Because we were too stubborn,
I admit... and I was wound up at that time so I also took everything badly, add that to language barriers and you've got a catastrophe scenario. It eventually got fixed with BJ03 creating a topic about the matters because it was really going to be endless... I apologize if I created problems during that period. But for now, let's move on and get on the recent side of things.

Suprothetteglerr/SCG
Literally a lot of spam and useless messages for nothing, immature actions and annoying behavior. But those people? Let me tell you ? They aren't very important. They did some problems on this website but they aren't the ones who pushed me to writing this very long climax.

I could say things about Chilli who played the victim and tried to shade other people and got mad at other people for nothing. Or even Jey (more in detail) for his whole drama story from March to June 2022. Or even the Jey/orchid/anthcny endless situation... But let's get onto the current problem...

The whole PrimeTime situation
Yup. And I'm going to say it loud and clear ; the PT movement was on the thin edge since the mere beginning. It was all about to fall down into the depths and it eventually did with ONE investigation.

I already knew it was fragile. PT arrived here and literally was known as the dude who invited Yoshizilla to play online and eventually made that person mad. But with time he arrived back as a rude and tough person. And then he started praising literally most people on this website. It soon became a movement: the positivity spreading movement. On the paper it sounds quite good, but the execution was poor, since everything was all too much. And I wanted to express how fragile it was, but I didn't want to cause an argument, because the PT stans tend to be delusional and blinded.

Notably with HonorableMentions, the girl who had beef with me for no absolute reason. I slightly criticized a topic she made and she got mad over it. This started mutual beef and we had to discuss during hours to fix it in private. But it wasn't fixed... since she eventually called Wal a snake for the investigation he did about PT's age. Nodac also supported HM and PT. This trio was supporting every of the members and it ended up by a ban to HM and that's it.

No that's not it. PrimeTime got mad over that and started to become way more violent and way more sexually explicit in the way he talked. He started to shade SuperYoshiKart, who was always criticized by the trio. That was an useless thing to do. And it just showed, that everything Wal and I said was right. I once said that this was just a positive persona that they put on and Wal once said he was too immature to be the wise man he pretends to be at 55.

Welp, if he really wanted to spread positivity, why did he start to spread negativity once his movement failed due to all the immaturity people had in the recent arguments? Why did we went from "Y'ALL ARE LEGENDS AND EVERYDAY HERE FEELS LIKE A BIRTHDAY BECAUSE OUR MOVEMENT MAKES THIS SITE SO POSITIVE OMG IT FEELS SO GOOD" to "CALLING OUT THE BUTT LICKING CROTCH SNIFFING RAT I WILL ROCK HIM IN THE JAW HIM WITH HIS MOMMA" ?

This whole PT movement seems like one of those dreams that don't actually make sense. Something that already feels old and rotten now. Something that you believe on at first, but that then deceives you. It doesn't make sense when you think about it. Everybody believed in PT's positivity movement, more or less. But if we're going to formulate it like him during this era "the job of helping champions to everyday become better people seems to have token a toll on him." Or in other words, his whole persona fell all down when we got enough things to ban one of his friends. Might as well not lie huh ? Because still using the words "champions" and etc. is great but useless, I'm telling you. People won't follow you now that you showed how much of a violent prick you can be. Hiding yourself behind a veil of lies is not going to help anything. We saw your true colors and there's no going back now.

And the staff, the poor staff had to handle this. They had to handle what no absolute staff member wishes to ; a senseless, violent and hot headed argument where nearly nobody is right yet almost everybody takes part in. Max didn't even understand any of the bullshit and just sent it to the other staff members.

This summarizes why most of the older staff leaves and why most of the older players either leave or don't spend much time here anymore. Fways and Mudky are very active on MKPC Discord servers. Because even if Discord has bad sides its so much better than it is here right now. If there's an argument it's settled rapidly and it tends to be way less frequent. People also take the jokes better since it's a more mature branch of people. But on here, everyone will go crazy over nothing and everyone will overreact and run around like headless sheeps that lost each other...

Even Max is part of the problem. Arguments with Pianta and with many other people, especially on Discord, even with me sometimes. Moderators need to be calm and make people feel secure and not create any problems, turns out Max tends to do the opposite to the burnout this job has given him.

Solutions
We need new staff to help the current team. Infi and Ahmad are much more active on Discord than on here, Ahmad being the only one at some point. Fways is just an event host, Ryubix is all focused on events, Wargor on making the game better. That leaves us with two : Max, who feels insecure and burnt out, and BJ, screwed over by the timezones, which makes him asleep at the most critical times and awake at the most empty times. Applications would be a good idea.

We also need to all take a chill pill and keep this light in our heads that reminds us about this argument so it doesn't restart again. I already did essays and climaxes before to fix small problems but this one really had to talk about every single recent problem so we could figure a solution out.

This website is worsening by the minute and it's terrible how the Discord part is so much better. No ban hammer that is always talked about by some people but never dared to be used by those same people. Chill staff, more mature people and senseful arguments.

This community is becoming so bad and bad and even worse than I thought it ever could. When I think it cannot gets worse, it just does. And now the website is constantly either ultra boring, on the edge, or problematic. While the precedent years were nothing like that. I'm not even here that much due to 2 months long vacation but as far as I saw this is the worst this community has ever been. It's messy asf.

I think that we can also take a look at the 2018 times. Lower activity, people liked each other, no senseless arguments, a friendly ambiance, many events, news and etc. To a MKPC today where projects are hardly done and where it's really just... shit.

I guess I'm off, I really needed to get this off my chest. Sorry if it's too long ig...

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This community is not going well...
I definitively think it's not a secret anymore: This community is going quite unwell.

And by quite, I mean more, but let's get into that in detail so we can all understand what has been going on and find actual solutions, because nothing is going on and the site can't become any worse or its sake will be consideraby damaged.

And now let me add some disclaimers : this is gonna mention names and this is gonna talk about recent arguments. I don't care if I get a warning for addressing this, it is needed at the moment, and if nobody dares to get some dirt on their hands this situation won't improve. Welp guess it's gonna be me.

Community before 2022
There weren't as many dramas back then. I wasn't here before 2020, 2020 got its dramas but it was overall much better. 2021 was a quite good year. You probably heard about the princesslucky situation... girl gone mad along with supersaga and it all stopped once she got banned. The community was overall better and the dramas were not as frequent. Now let's move on to where it got worse...

2022.
2022 was the year when Fways resigned as an admin, 2022 was the year when new moderators got added. The wave of new users happened and it started quite badly with Jey against Fways, an argument that.. could have just been avoided. The moderator scene was quite busy with many people applying. BJ03 and Max got selected. And Max... is gonna be mentioned much later in his own section. For now we willll ignore the recent events, and say he was a chilll person.

It also marked the arrival of the minimodding and of the nitpick era. Not a good thing if you ask me, and I was a major part of the problem. Now this has ceased, since Nudge, me, and Max hardly give a fuck about it, and it's better that way.

Names
Now we are getting to 2023 and I'm going to mention names because I can't really recall what happened when... but I can recall who did what.

KirbyBoy
Probably the most slandered dude on MKPC, he's even got a hate train at the time. What he did wasn't that much though, it was creating lots of unfunny memes (to the level of spam) and complaining about various things. He took more than he deserved. His spam of memes was definitively annoying and irrelevant, but I'll say it loud and clear : we overreacted about him. He was still immature and not taking any advice... but we might have made feel belittled for something that honestly, we took too seriously, and I feel bad.

Bluey
Spam of memes that didn't even try and ultimate stubbornness, KB without the complaints and without the hate train and the slander.

Tendo
Not a heart filled with harm but extremely harmful actions. He started his shit back in 2022, what he did was mainly creating alts that had racist names (FuckUkraine, etc.) Alts that seeked attention (they had their tea salon moment and created a whole story on sfa for literally nothing.) Alts that pretended to be someone else (his brother) and that used homophoic slurs (faggot).

He was very annoying throughout the whole existence he had here, acted immaturely, went against rules and didn't care because he was the kind of dude to criticize every one of em... and he also posted a lot of useless messages. A dude who didn't bully anyone, but what he did was still terrible and he got permanently banned, despite trying to come back many times, by ban evading, but with time people got more and more suspicious and better at finding out who's Tendo and who's not.

That was stupid and annoying, and our poor reactions to that didn't quite help the situation. But there's still more to say.

Coopa/Finigi/ThePanFlute
It would be a lie to say his recent slight glowup made him perfect, but it would be a lie to say it is non-existent. That man literally posted way too many messages, irrelevant and useless ones, and was overall quite immature and annoying. He became provocative at some point too and did a lot of shit after one of his bans (he got banned twice) but overall I can't really recall everything properly. I know that my reactions to that might have been way too much, and I won't say I was overall feeling good at that time, but it's searching excuses and I'm ready to take this part of the blame. But let's move on eventually, he's becoming better by the day.

48HourKet
This dude was literally just a rude person to almost everyone and used insults too many times. Until that moment we couldn't really lay a finger on him because he didn't broke the rules or anything. But then, he started fatshaming someone he didn't even know (which makes no sense) and wished death upon people.

Although Pianta agreed with his views (not his messages and I got the personal confirmation) most people found him to be violent and annoying, to the extent that after wishing death and fatshaming upon several people for absolutely no reason, Ryubix permanently banned him for once and for good, without any sanctions before.

Me/Max/Pianta
Yup yup, there has also been a whole problem going on and I was the center of it. April has been filled of it : fights between Max, me and Pianta. And it was ENDLESS ! Because we were too stubborn,
I admit... and I was wound up at that time so I also took everything badly, add that to language barriers and you've got a catastrophe scenario. It eventually got fixed with BJ03 creating a topic about the matters because it was really going to be endless... I apologize if I created problems during that period. But for now, let's move on and get on the recent side of things.

Suprothetteglerr/SCG
Literally a lot of spam and useless messages for nothing, immature actions and annoying behavior. But those people? Let me tell you ? They aren't very important. They did some problems on this website but they aren't the ones who pushed me to writing this very long climax.

I could say things about Chilli who played the victim and tried to shade other people and got mad at other people for nothing. Or even Jey (more in detail) for his whole drama story from March to June 2022. Or even the Jey/orchid/anthcny endless situation... But let's get onto the current problem...

The whole PrimeTime situation
Yup. And I'm going to say it loud and clear ; the PT movement was on the thin edge since the mere beginning. It was all about to fall down into the depths and it eventually did with ONE investigation.

I already knew it was fragile. PT arrived here and literally was known as the dude who invited Yoshizilla to play online and eventually made that person mad. But with time he arrived back as a rude and tough person. And then he started praising literally most people on this website. It soon became a movement: the positivity spreading movement. On the paper it sounds quite good, but the execution was poor, since everything was all too much. And I wanted to express how fragile it was, but I didn't want to cause an argument, because the PT stans tend to be delusional and blinded.

Notably with HonorableMentions, the girl who had beef with me for no absolute reason. I slightly criticized a topic she made and she got mad over it. This started mutual beef and we had to discuss during hours to fix it in private. But it wasn't fixed... since she eventually called Wal a snake for the investigation he did about PT's age. Nodac also supported HM and PT. This trio was supporting every of the members and it ended up by a ban to HM and that's it.

No that's not it. PrimeTime got mad over that and started to become way more violent and way more sexually explicit in the way he talked. He started to shade SuperYoshiKart, who was always criticized by the trio. That was an useless thing to do. And it just showed, that everything Wal and I said was right. I once said that this was just a positive persona that they put on and Wal once said he was too immature to be the wise man he pretends to be at 55.

Welp, if he really wanted to spread positivity, why did he start to spread negativity once his movement failed due to all the immaturity people had in the recent arguments? Why did we went from "Y'ALL ARE LEGENDS AND EVERYDAY HERE FEELS LIKE A BIRTHDAY BECAUSE OUR MOVEMENT MAKES THIS SITE SO POSITIVE OMG IT FEELS SO GOOD" to "CALLING OUT THE BUTT LICKING CROTCH SNIFFING RAT I WILL ROCK HIM IN THE JAW HIM WITH HIS MOMMA" ?

This whole PT movement seems like one of those dreams that don't actually make sense. Something that already feels old and rotten now. Something that you believe on at first, but that then deceives you. It doesn't make sense when you think about it. Everybody believed in PT's positivity movement, more or less. But if we're going to formulate it like him during this era "the job of helping champions to everyday become better people seems to have token a toll on him." Or in other words, his whole persona fell all down when we got enough things to ban one of his friends. Might as well not lie huh ? Because still using the words "champions" and etc. is great but useless, I'm telling you. People won't follow you now that you showed how much of a violent prick you can be. Hiding yourself behind a veil of lies is not going to help anything. We saw your true colors and there's no going back now.

And the staff, the poor staff had to handle this. They had to handle what no absolute staff member wishes to ; a senseless, violent and hot headed argument where nearly nobody is right yet almost everybody takes part in. Max didn't even understand any of the bullshit and just sent it to the other staff members.

This summarizes why most of the older staff leaves and why most of the older players either leave or don't spend much time here anymore. Fways and Mudky are very active on MKPC Discord servers. Because even if Discord has bad sides its so much better than it is here right now. If there's an argument it's settled rapidly and it tends to be way less frequent. People also take the jokes better since it's a more mature branch of people. But on here, everyone will go crazy over nothing and everyone will overreact and run around like headless sheeps that lost each other...

Even Max is part of the problem. Arguments with Pianta and with many other people, especially on Discord, even with me sometimes. Moderators need to be calm and make people feel secure and not create any problems, turns out Max tends to do the opposite to the burnout this job has given him.

Solutions
We need new staff to help the current team. Infi and Ahmad are much more active on Discord than on here, Ahmad being the only one at some point. Fways is just an event host, Ryubix is all focused on events, Wargor on making the game better. That leaves us with two : Max, who feels insecure and burnt out, and BJ, screwed over by the timezones, which makes him asleep at the most critical times and awake at the most empty times. Applications would be a good idea.

We also need to all take a chill pill and keep this light in our heads that reminds us about this argument so it doesn't restart again. I already did essays and climaxes before to fix small problems but this one really had to talk about every single recent problem so we could figure a solution out.

This website is worsening by the minute and it's terrible how the Discord part is so much better. No ban hammer that is always talked about by some people but never dared to be used by those same people. Chill staff, more mature people and senseful arguments.

This community is becoming so bad and bad and even worse than I thought it ever could. When I think it cannot gets worse, it just does. And now the website is constantly either ultra boring, on the edge, or problematic. While the precedent years were nothing like that. I'm not even here that much due to 2 months long vacation but as far as I saw this is the worst this community has ever been. It's messy asf.

I think that we can also take a look at the 2018 times. Lower activity, people liked each other, no senseless arguments, a friendly ambiance, many events, news and etc. To a MKPC today where projects are hardly done and where it's really just... shit.

I guess I'm off, I really needed to get this off my chest. Sorry if it's too long ig...

My take on everyone you've mentioned:

KirbyBoy -  Just straight up immature, I don't harbor grudges against him though, I just find his memes bad.

Bluey - I forgot this guy even existed tbh, he was essentially a copy/paste of KirbyBoy imo.

Tendo - Ehh, it's a mixed bag tbh, however I do hold a grudge against him (for reasons I will not disclose here) - also saying shit like 'FUCK THAT FAGGOT' was completely uncalled for, like is he completely oblivious to the fact that members will take offense just by seeing the word alone?

Coopa - Has redeemed himself recently but before he was another clone of KirbyBoy basically (idk who came first)

48HourKet - Okay, this may sound harsh of me but I actually wanna kill this guy. He legit fatshamed my girlfriend and essentially told her to kill herself. It's been months and I still hold a grudge, and tbh I probably will until true justice is served to that disgusting whorish pile of bullshit.

The Pianta situation - As Tox pointed out before, it's mainly a language barrier issue. There was clearly some miscommunication as both Lely and Max know less English slang than some members here. The way Pianta took the whole thing could've been avoided though tbh.

SCG - Basically 2022 Coopa but worse.

Chilli - Basically 2022 Coopa but actually has some redeeming qualities (not going into detail about the whole SlanderedByThoseHaters bullshit).

Jey - Not to be rude, but imo I think he takes things a bit too personally sometimes. But hey, everyone has flaws ig.

PrimeTime: Okay, I wanna say something, more a confession here, I knew this whole peace thing was complete and utter bollocks. It seemed far too unrealistic imo, I just said nothing because I didn't wanna receive backlash, but that's beyond the point. The point is that PT hasn't necessarily left a positive mark on MKPC either. Him and his entourage have a load of beef with SuperYoshiKart, understandably it pisses me off when my friends get slandered. I tried to alleviate the situation, but I apologize if I seemed harsh or condescending. The thing about PT is I'm just surprised he's not been banned tbh.

HonorableMentions: Okay, she pisses me off more than PT. She's rude, snarky, snide and just immature. She liked to bully anyone who was 'rude' to PT (basically me, SYK, Wal68 etc.) when in fact we're trying to defuze the drama.

Wal68: Okay I have nothing against Wal68, I will say that the way he's been treated, especially by HM and PT was totally uncalled for. He literally just got over being suicidal and then he got suicidal again cause of HM and PT. Thanks a lot, you toxic motherfuckers.

Max: Okay I get he's autistic but some of the things he's gotten himself into lately could have definitely been avoided, or at the very least, defuzed before an explosion. I understand his situation as someone who was diagnozed with autism myself, however.


My opinion on what to do from here on out: If you're new or have no idea what's going on, I get that you may wanna defuze things but please take a step back and think carefully before posting. We all need to calm down here, and try to instead move on from this drama rather than cling onto it for dear life.

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This community is not going well...
I definitively think it's not a secret anymore: This community is going quite unwell.

And by quite, I mean more, but let's get into that in detail so we can all understand what has been going on and find actual solutions, because nothing is going on and the site can't become any worse or its sake will be consideraby damaged.

And now let me add some disclaimers : this is gonna mention names and this is gonna talk about recent arguments. I don't care if I get a warning for addressing this, it is needed at the moment, and if nobody dares to get some dirt on their hands this situation won't improve. Welp guess it's gonna be me.

Community before 2022
There weren't as many dramas back then. I wasn't here before 2020, 2020 got its dramas but it was overall much better. 2021 was a quite good year. You probably heard about the princesslucky situation... girl gone mad along with supersaga and it all stopped once she got banned. The community was overall better and the dramas were not as frequent. Now let's move on to where it got worse...

2022.
2022 was the year when Fways resigned as an admin, 2022 was the year when new moderators got added. The wave of new users happened and it started quite badly with Jey against Fways, an argument that.. could have just been avoided. The moderator scene was quite busy with many people applying. BJ03 and Max got selected. And Max... is gonna be mentioned much later in his own section. For now we willll ignore the recent events, and say he was a chilll person.

It also marked the arrival of the minimodding and of the nitpick era. Not a good thing if you ask me, and I was a major part of the problem. Now this has ceased, since Nudge, me, and Max hardly give a fuck about it, and it's better that way.

Names
Now we are getting to 2023 and I'm going to mention names because I can't really recall what happened when... but I can recall who did what.

KirbyBoy
Probably the most slandered dude on MKPC, he's even got a hate train at the time. What he did wasn't that much though, it was creating lots of unfunny memes (to the level of spam) and complaining about various things. He took more than he deserved. His spam of memes was definitively annoying and irrelevant, but I'll say it loud and clear : we overreacted about him. He was still immature and not taking any advice... but we might have made feel belittled for something that honestly, we took too seriously, and I feel bad.

Bluey
Spam of memes that didn't even try and ultimate stubbornness, KB without the complaints and without the hate train and the slander.

Tendo
Not a heart filled with harm but extremely harmful actions. He started his shit back in 2022, what he did was mainly creating alts that had racist names (FuckUkraine, etc.) Alts that seeked attention (they had their tea salon moment and created a whole story on sfa for literally nothing.) Alts that pretended to be someone else (his brother) and that used homophoic slurs (faggot).

He was very annoying throughout the whole existence he had here, acted immaturely, went against rules and didn't care because he was the kind of dude to criticize every one of em... and he also posted a lot of useless messages. A dude who didn't bully anyone, but what he did was still terrible and he got permanently banned, despite trying to come back many times, by ban evading, but with time people got more and more suspicious and better at finding out who's Tendo and who's not.

That was stupid and annoying, and our poor reactions to that didn't quite help the situation. But there's still more to say.

Coopa/Finigi/ThePanFlute
It would be a lie to say his recent slight glowup made him perfect, but it would be a lie to say it is non-existent. That man literally posted way too many messages, irrelevant and useless ones, and was overall quite immature and annoying. He became provocative at some point too and did a lot of shit after one of his bans (he got banned twice) but overall I can't really recall everything properly. I know that my reactions to that might have been way too much, and I won't say I was overall feeling good at that time, but it's searching excuses and I'm ready to take this part of the blame. But let's move on eventually, he's becoming better by the day.

48HourKet
This dude was literally just a rude person to almost everyone and used insults too many times. Until that moment we couldn't really lay a finger on him because he didn't broke the rules or anything. But then, he started fatshaming someone he didn't even know (which makes no sense) and wished death upon people.

Although Pianta agreed with his views (not his messages and I got the personal confirmation) most people found him to be violent and annoying, to the extent that after wishing death and fatshaming upon several people for absolutely no reason, Ryubix permanently banned him for once and for good, without any sanctions before.

Me/Max/Pianta
Yup yup, there has also been a whole problem going on and I was the center of it. April has been filled of it : fights between Max, me and Pianta. And it was ENDLESS ! Because we were too stubborn,
I admit... and I was wound up at that time so I also took everything badly, add that to language barriers and you've got a catastrophe scenario. It eventually got fixed with BJ03 creating a topic about the matters because it was really going to be endless... I apologize if I created problems during that period. But for now, let's move on and get on the recent side of things.

Suprothetteglerr/SCG
Literally a lot of spam and useless messages for nothing, immature actions and annoying behavior. But those people? Let me tell you ? They aren't very important. They did some problems on this website but they aren't the ones who pushed me to writing this very long climax.

I could say things about Chilli who played the victim and tried to shade other people and got mad at other people for nothing. Or even Jey (more in detail) for his whole drama story from March to June 2022. Or even the Jey/orchid/anthcny endless situation... But let's get onto the current problem...

The whole PrimeTime situation
Yup. And I'm going to say it loud and clear ; the PT movement was on the thin edge since the mere beginning. It was all about to fall down into the depths and it eventually did with ONE investigation.

I already knew it was fragile. PT arrived here and literally was known as the dude who invited Yoshizilla to play online and eventually made that person mad. But with time he arrived back as a rude and tough person. And then he started praising literally most people on this website. It soon became a movement: the positivity spreading movement. On the paper it sounds quite good, but the execution was poor, since everything was all too much. And I wanted to express how fragile it was, but I didn't want to cause an argument, because the PT stans tend to be delusional and blinded.

Notably with HonorableMentions, the girl who had beef with me for no absolute reason. I slightly criticized a topic she made and she got mad over it. This started mutual beef and we had to discuss during hours to fix it in private. But it wasn't fixed... since she eventually called Wal a snake for the investigation he did about PT's age. Nodac also supported HM and PT. This trio was supporting every of the members and it ended up by a ban to HM and that's it.

No that's not it. PrimeTime got mad over that and started to become way more violent and way more sexually explicit in the way he talked. He started to shade SuperYoshiKart, who was always criticized by the trio. That was an useless thing to do. And it just showed, that everything Wal and I said was right. I once said that this was just a positive persona that they put on and Wal once said he was too immature to be the wise man he pretends to be at 55.

Welp, if he really wanted to spread positivity, why did he start to spread negativity once his movement failed due to all the immaturity people had in the recent arguments? Why did we went from "Y'ALL ARE LEGENDS AND EVERYDAY HERE FEELS LIKE A BIRTHDAY BECAUSE OUR MOVEMENT MAKES THIS SITE SO POSITIVE OMG IT FEELS SO GOOD" to "CALLING OUT THE BUTT LICKING CROTCH SNIFFING RAT I WILL ROCK HIM IN THE JAW HIM WITH HIS MOMMA" ?

This whole PT movement seems like one of those dreams that don't actually make sense. Something that already feels old and rotten now. Something that you believe on at first, but that then deceives you. It doesn't make sense when you think about it. Everybody believed in PT's positivity movement, more or less. But if we're going to formulate it like him during this era "the job of helping champions to everyday become better people seems to have token a toll on him." Or in other words, his whole persona fell all down when we got enough things to ban one of his friends. Might as well not lie huh ? Because still using the words "champions" and etc. is great but useless, I'm telling you. People won't follow you now that you showed how much of a violent prick you can be. Hiding yourself behind a veil of lies is not going to help anything. We saw your true colors and there's no going back now.

And the staff, the poor staff had to handle this. They had to handle what no absolute staff member wishes to ; a senseless, violent and hot headed argument where nearly nobody is right yet almost everybody takes part in. Max didn't even understand any of the bullshit and just sent it to the other staff members.

This summarizes why most of the older staff leaves and why most of the older players either leave or don't spend much time here anymore. Fways and Mudky are very active on MKPC Discord servers. Because even if Discord has bad sides its so much better than it is here right now. If there's an argument it's settled rapidly and it tends to be way less frequent. People also take the jokes better since it's a more mature branch of people. But on here, everyone will go crazy over nothing and everyone will overreact and run around like headless sheeps that lost each other...

Even Max is part of the problem. Arguments with Pianta and with many other people, especially on Discord, even with me sometimes. Moderators need to be calm and make people feel secure and not create any problems, turns out Max tends to do the opposite to the burnout this job has given him.

Solutions
We need new staff to help the current team. Infi and Ahmad are much more active on Discord than on here, Ahmad being the only one at some point. Fways is just an event host, Ryubix is all focused on events, Wargor on making the game better. That leaves us with two : Max, who feels insecure and burnt out, and BJ, screwed over by the timezones, which makes him asleep at the most critical times and awake at the most empty times. Applications would be a good idea.

We also need to all take a chill pill and keep this light in our heads that reminds us about this argument so it doesn't restart again. I already did essays and climaxes before to fix small problems but this one really had to talk about every single recent problem so we could figure a solution out.

This website is worsening by the minute and it's terrible how the Discord part is so much better. No ban hammer that is always talked about by some people but never dared to be used by those same people. Chill staff, more mature people and senseful arguments.

This community is becoming so bad and bad and even worse than I thought it ever could. When I think it cannot gets worse, it just does. And now the website is constantly either ultra boring, on the edge, or problematic. While the precedent years were nothing like that. I'm not even here that much due to 2 months long vacation but as far as I saw this is the worst this community has ever been. It's messy asf.

I think that we can also take a look at the 2018 times. Lower activity, people liked each other, no senseless arguments, a friendly ambiance, many events, news and etc. To a MKPC today where projects are hardly done and where it's really just... shit.

I guess I'm off, I really needed to get this off my chest. Sorry if it's too long ig...

We do not speak of Princesslucky

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This community is not going well...
I definitively think it's not a secret anymore: This community is going quite unwell.

And by quite, I mean more, but let's get into that in detail so we can all understand what has been going on and find actual solutions, because nothing is going on and the site can't become any worse or its sake will be consideraby damaged.

And now let me add some disclaimers : this is gonna mention names and this is gonna talk about recent arguments. I don't care if I get a warning for addressing this, it is needed at the moment, and if nobody dares to get some dirt on their hands this situation won't improve. Welp guess it's gonna be me.

Community before 2022
There weren't as many dramas back then. I wasn't here before 2020, 2020 got its dramas but it was overall much better. 2021 was a quite good year. You probably heard about the princesslucky situation... girl gone mad along with supersaga and it all stopped once she got banned. The community was overall better and the dramas were not as frequent. Now let's move on to where it got worse...

2022.
2022 was the year when Fways resigned as an admin, 2022 was the year when new moderators got added. The wave of new users happened and it started quite badly with Jey against Fways, an argument that.. could have just been avoided. The moderator scene was quite busy with many people applying. BJ03 and Max got selected. And Max... is gonna be mentioned much later in his own section. For now we willll ignore the recent events, and say he was a chilll person.

It also marked the arrival of the minimodding and of the nitpick era. Not a good thing if you ask me, and I was a major part of the problem. Now this has ceased, since Nudge, me, and Max hardly give a fuck about it, and it's better that way.

Names
Now we are getting to 2023 and I'm going to mention names because I can't really recall what happened when... but I can recall who did what.

KirbyBoy
Probably the most slandered dude on MKPC, he's even got a hate train at the time. What he did wasn't that much though, it was creating lots of unfunny memes (to the level of spam) and complaining about various things. He took more than he deserved. His spam of memes was definitively annoying and irrelevant, but I'll say it loud and clear : we overreacted about him. He was still immature and not taking any advice... but we might have made feel belittled for something that honestly, we took too seriously, and I feel bad.

Bluey
Spam of memes that didn't even try and ultimate stubbornness, KB without the complaints and without the hate train and the slander.

Tendo
Not a heart filled with harm but extremely harmful actions. He started his shit back in 2022, what he did was mainly creating alts that had racist names (FuckUkraine, etc.) Alts that seeked attention (they had their tea salon moment and created a whole story on sfa for literally nothing.) Alts that pretended to be someone else (his brother) and that used homophoic slurs (faggot).

He was very annoying throughout the whole existence he had here, acted immaturely, went against rules and didn't care because he was the kind of dude to criticize every one of em... and he also posted a lot of useless messages. A dude who didn't bully anyone, but what he did was still terrible and he got permanently banned, despite trying to come back many times, by ban evading, but with time people got more and more suspicious and better at finding out who's Tendo and who's not.

That was stupid and annoying, and our poor reactions to that didn't quite help the situation. But there's still more to say.

Coopa/Finigi/ThePanFlute
It would be a lie to say his recent slight glowup made him perfect, but it would be a lie to say it is non-existent. That man literally posted way too many messages, irrelevant and useless ones, and was overall quite immature and annoying. He became provocative at some point too and did a lot of shit after one of his bans (he got banned twice) but overall I can't really recall everything properly. I know that my reactions to that might have been way too much, and I won't say I was overall feeling good at that time, but it's searching excuses and I'm ready to take this part of the blame. But let's move on eventually, he's becoming better by the day.

48HourKet
This dude was literally just a rude person to almost everyone and used insults too many times. Until that moment we couldn't really lay a finger on him because he didn't broke the rules or anything. But then, he started fatshaming someone he didn't even know (which makes no sense) and wished death upon people.

Although Pianta agreed with his views (not his messages and I got the personal confirmation) most people found him to be violent and annoying, to the extent that after wishing death and fatshaming upon several people for absolutely no reason, Ryubix permanently banned him for once and for good, without any sanctions before.

Me/Max/Pianta
Yup yup, there has also been a whole problem going on and I was the center of it. April has been filled of it : fights between Max, me and Pianta. And it was ENDLESS ! Because we were too stubborn,
I admit... and I was wound up at that time so I also took everything badly, add that to language barriers and you've got a catastrophe scenario. It eventually got fixed with BJ03 creating a topic about the matters because it was really going to be endless... I apologize if I created problems during that period. But for now, let's move on and get on the recent side of things.

Suprothetteglerr/SCG
Literally a lot of spam and useless messages for nothing, immature actions and annoying behavior. But those people? Let me tell you ? They aren't very important. They did some problems on this website but they aren't the ones who pushed me to writing this very long climax.

I could say things about Chilli who played the victim and tried to shade other people and got mad at other people for nothing. Or even Jey (more in detail) for his whole drama story from March to June 2022. Or even the Jey/orchid/anthcny endless situation... But let's get onto the current problem...

The whole PrimeTime situation
Yup. And I'm going to say it loud and clear ; the PT movement was on the thin edge since the mere beginning. It was all about to fall down into the depths and it eventually did with ONE investigation.

I already knew it was fragile. PT arrived here and literally was known as the dude who invited Yoshizilla to play online and eventually made that person mad. But with time he arrived back as a rude and tough person. And then he started praising literally most people on this website. It soon became a movement: the positivity spreading movement. On the paper it sounds quite good, but the execution was poor, since everything was all too much. And I wanted to express how fragile it was, but I didn't want to cause an argument, because the PT stans tend to be delusional and blinded.

Notably with HonorableMentions, the girl who had beef with me for no absolute reason. I slightly criticized a topic she made and she got mad over it. This started mutual beef and we had to discuss during hours to fix it in private. But it wasn't fixed... since she eventually called Wal a snake for the investigation he did about PT's age. Nodac also supported HM and PT. This trio was supporting every of the members and it ended up by a ban to HM and that's it.

No that's not it. PrimeTime got mad over that and started to become way more violent and way more sexually explicit in the way he talked. He started to shade SuperYoshiKart, who was always criticized by the trio. That was an useless thing to do. And it just showed, that everything Wal and I said was right. I once said that this was just a positive persona that they put on and Wal once said he was too immature to be the wise man he pretends to be at 55.

Welp, if he really wanted to spread positivity, why did he start to spread negativity once his movement failed due to all the immaturity people had in the recent arguments? Why did we went from "Y'ALL ARE LEGENDS AND EVERYDAY HERE FEELS LIKE A BIRTHDAY BECAUSE OUR MOVEMENT MAKES THIS SITE SO POSITIVE OMG IT FEELS SO GOOD" to "CALLING OUT THE BUTT LICKING CROTCH SNIFFING RAT I WILL ROCK HIM IN THE JAW HIM WITH HIS MOMMA" ?

This whole PT movement seems like one of those dreams that don't actually make sense. Something that already feels old and rotten now. Something that you believe on at first, but that then deceives you. It doesn't make sense when you think about it. Everybody believed in PT's positivity movement, more or less. But if we're going to formulate it like him during this era "the job of helping champions to everyday become better people seems to have token a toll on him." Or in other words, his whole persona fell all down when we got enough things to ban one of his friends. Might as well not lie huh ? Because still using the words "champions" and etc. is great but useless, I'm telling you. People won't follow you now that you showed how much of a violent prick you can be. Hiding yourself behind a veil of lies is not going to help anything. We saw your true colors and there's no going back now.

And the staff, the poor staff had to handle this. They had to handle what no absolute staff member wishes to ; a senseless, violent and hot headed argument where nearly nobody is right yet almost everybody takes part in. Max didn't even understand any of the bullshit and just sent it to the other staff members.

This summarizes why most of the older staff leaves and why most of the older players either leave or don't spend much time here anymore. Fways and Mudky are very active on MKPC Discord servers. Because even if Discord has bad sides its so much better than it is here right now. If there's an argument it's settled rapidly and it tends to be way less frequent. People also take the jokes better since it's a more mature branch of people. But on here, everyone will go crazy over nothing and everyone will overreact and run around like headless sheeps that lost each other...

Even Max is part of the problem. Arguments with Pianta and with many other people, especially on Discord, even with me sometimes. Moderators need to be calm and make people feel secure and not create any problems, turns out Max tends to do the opposite to the burnout this job has given him.

Solutions
We need new staff to help the current team. Infi and Ahmad are much more active on Discord than on here, Ahmad being the only one at some point. Fways is just an event host, Ryubix is all focused on events, Wargor on making the game better. That leaves us with two : Max, who feels insecure and burnt out, and BJ, screwed over by the timezones, which makes him asleep at the most critical times and awake at the most empty times. Applications would be a good idea.

We also need to all take a chill pill and keep this light in our heads that reminds us about this argument so it doesn't restart again. I already did essays and climaxes before to fix small problems but this one really had to talk about every single recent problem so we could figure a solution out.

This website is worsening by the minute and it's terrible how the Discord part is so much better. No ban hammer that is always talked about by some people but never dared to be used by those same people. Chill staff, more mature people and senseful arguments.

This community is becoming so bad and bad and even worse than I thought it ever could. When I think it cannot gets worse, it just does. And now the website is constantly either ultra boring, on the edge, or problematic. While the precedent years were nothing like that. I'm not even here that much due to 2 months long vacation but as far as I saw this is the worst this community has ever been. It's messy asf.

I think that we can also take a look at the 2018 times. Lower activity, people liked each other, no senseless arguments, a friendly ambiance, many events, news and etc. To a MKPC today where projects are hardly done and where it's really just... shit.

I guess I'm off, I really needed to get this off my chest. Sorry if it's too long ig...

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This community is not going well...
I definitively think it's not a secret anymore: This community is going quite unwell.

And by quite, I mean more, but let's get into that in detail so we can all understand what has been going on and find actual solutions, because nothing is going on and the site can't become any worse or its sake will be consideraby damaged.

And now let me add some disclaimers : this is gonna mention names and this is gonna talk about recent arguments. I don't care if I get a warning for addressing this, it is needed at the moment, and if nobody dares to get some dirt on their hands this situation won't improve. Welp guess it's gonna be me.

Community before 2022
There weren't as many dramas back then. I wasn't here before 2020, 2020 got its dramas but it was overall much better. 2021 was a quite good year. You probably heard about the princesslucky situation... girl gone mad along with supersaga and it all stopped once she got banned. The community was overall better and the dramas were not as frequent. Now let's move on to where it got worse...

2022.
2022 was the year when Fways resigned as an admin, 2022 was the year when new moderators got added. The wave of new users happened and it started quite badly with Jey against Fways, an argument that.. could have just been avoided. The moderator scene was quite busy with many people applying. BJ03 and Max got selected. And Max... is gonna be mentioned much later in his own section. For now we willll ignore the recent events, and say he was a chilll person.

It also marked the arrival of the minimodding and of the nitpick era. Not a good thing if you ask me, and I was a major part of the problem. Now this has ceased, since Nudge, me, and Max hardly give a fuck about it, and it's better that way.

Names
Now we are getting to 2023 and I'm going to mention names because I can't really recall what happened when... but I can recall who did what.

KirbyBoy
Probably the most slandered dude on MKPC, he's even got a hate train at the time. What he did wasn't that much though, it was creating lots of unfunny memes (to the level of spam) and complaining about various things. He took more than he deserved. His spam of memes was definitively annoying and irrelevant, but I'll say it loud and clear : we overreacted about him. He was still immature and not taking any advice... but we might have made feel belittled for something that honestly, we took too seriously, and I feel bad.

Bluey
Spam of memes that didn't even try and ultimate stubbornness, KB without the complaints and without the hate train and the slander.

Tendo
Not a heart filled with harm but extremely harmful actions. He started his shit back in 2022, what he did was mainly creating alts that had racist names (FuckUkraine, etc.) Alts that seeked attention (they had their tea salon moment and created a whole story on sfa for literally nothing.) Alts that pretended to be someone else (his brother) and that used homophoic slurs (faggot).

He was very annoying throughout the whole existence he had here, acted immaturely, went against rules and didn't care because he was the kind of dude to criticize every one of em... and he also posted a lot of useless messages. A dude who didn't bully anyone, but what he did was still terrible and he got permanently banned, despite trying to come back many times, by ban evading, but with time people got more and more suspicious and better at finding out who's Tendo and who's not.

That was stupid and annoying, and our poor reactions to that didn't quite help the situation. But there's still more to say.

Coopa/Finigi/ThePanFlute
It would be a lie to say his recent slight glowup made him perfect, but it would be a lie to say it is non-existent. That man literally posted way too many messages, irrelevant and useless ones, and was overall quite immature and annoying. He became provocative at some point too and did a lot of shit after one of his bans (he got banned twice) but overall I can't really recall everything properly. I know that my reactions to that might have been way too much, and I won't say I was overall feeling good at that time, but it's searching excuses and I'm ready to take this part of the blame. But let's move on eventually, he's becoming better by the day.

48HourKet
This dude was literally just a rude person to almost everyone and used insults too many times. Until that moment we couldn't really lay a finger on him because he didn't broke the rules or anything. But then, he started fatshaming someone he didn't even know (which makes no sense) and wished death upon people.

Although Pianta agreed with his views (not his messages and I got the personal confirmation) most people found him to be violent and annoying, to the extent that after wishing death and fatshaming upon several people for absolutely no reason, Ryubix permanently banned him for once and for good, without any sanctions before.

Me/Max/Pianta
Yup yup, there has also been a whole problem going on and I was the center of it. April has been filled of it : fights between Max, me and Pianta. And it was ENDLESS ! Because we were too stubborn,
I admit... and I was wound up at that time so I also took everything badly, add that to language barriers and you've got a catastrophe scenario. It eventually got fixed with BJ03 creating a topic about the matters because it was really going to be endless... I apologize if I created problems during that period. But for now, let's move on and get on the recent side of things.

Suprothetteglerr/SCG
Literally a lot of spam and useless messages for nothing, immature actions and annoying behavior. But those people? Let me tell you ? They aren't very important. They did some problems on this website but they aren't the ones who pushed me to writing this very long climax.

I could say things about Chilli who played the victim and tried to shade other people and got mad at other people for nothing. Or even Jey (more in detail) for his whole drama story from March to June 2022. Or even the Jey/orchid/anthcny endless situation... But let's get onto the current problem...

The whole PrimeTime situation
Yup. And I'm going to say it loud and clear ; the PT movement was on the thin edge since the mere beginning. It was all about to fall down into the depths and it eventually did with ONE investigation.

I already knew it was fragile. PT arrived here and literally was known as the dude who invited Yoshizilla to play online and eventually made that person mad. But with time he arrived back as a rude and tough person. And then he started praising literally most people on this website. It soon became a movement: the positivity spreading movement. On the paper it sounds quite good, but the execution was poor, since everything was all too much. And I wanted to express how fragile it was, but I didn't want to cause an argument, because the PT stans tend to be delusional and blinded.

Notably with HonorableMentions, the girl who had beef with me for no absolute reason. I slightly criticized a topic she made and she got mad over it. This started mutual beef and we had to discuss during hours to fix it in private. But it wasn't fixed... since she eventually called Wal a snake for the investigation he did about PT's age. Nodac also supported HM and PT. This trio was supporting every of the members and it ended up by a ban to HM and that's it.

No that's not it. PrimeTime got mad over that and started to become way more violent and way more sexually explicit in the way he talked. He started to shade SuperYoshiKart, who was always criticized by the trio. That was an useless thing to do. And it just showed, that everything Wal and I said was right. I once said that this was just a positive persona that they put on and Wal once said he was too immature to be the wise man he pretends to be at 55.

Welp, if he really wanted to spread positivity, why did he start to spread negativity once his movement failed due to all the immaturity people had in the recent arguments? Why did we went from "Y'ALL ARE LEGENDS AND EVERYDAY HERE FEELS LIKE A BIRTHDAY BECAUSE OUR MOVEMENT MAKES THIS SITE SO POSITIVE OMG IT FEELS SO GOOD" to "CALLING OUT THE BUTT LICKING CROTCH SNIFFING RAT I WILL ROCK HIM IN THE JAW HIM WITH HIS MOMMA" ?

This whole PT movement seems like one of those dreams that don't actually make sense. Something that already feels old and rotten now. Something that you believe on at first, but that then deceives you. It doesn't make sense when you think about it. Everybody believed in PT's positivity movement, more or less. But if we're going to formulate it like him during this era "the job of helping champions to everyday become better people seems to have token a toll on him." Or in other words, his whole persona fell all down when we got enough things to ban one of his friends. Might as well not lie huh ? Because still using the words "champions" and etc. is great but useless, I'm telling you. People won't follow you now that you showed how much of a violent prick you can be. Hiding yourself behind a veil of lies is not going to help anything. We saw your true colors and there's no going back now.

And the staff, the poor staff had to handle this. They had to handle what no absolute staff member wishes to ; a senseless, violent and hot headed argument where nearly nobody is right yet almost everybody takes part in. Max didn't even understand any of the bullshit and just sent it to the other staff members.

This summarizes why most of the older staff leaves and why most of the older players either leave or don't spend much time here anymore. Fways and Mudky are very active on MKPC Discord servers. Because even if Discord has bad sides its so much better than it is here right now. If there's an argument it's settled rapidly and it tends to be way less frequent. People also take the jokes better since it's a more mature branch of people. But on here, everyone will go crazy over nothing and everyone will overreact and run around like headless sheeps that lost each other...

Even Max is part of the problem. Arguments with Pianta and with many other people, especially on Discord, even with me sometimes. Moderators need to be calm and make people feel secure and not create any problems, turns out Max tends to do the opposite to the burnout this job has given him.

Solutions
We need new staff to help the current team. Infi and Ahmad are much more active on Discord than on here, Ahmad being the only one at some point. Fways is just an event host, Ryubix is all focused on events, Wargor on making the game better. That leaves us with two : Max, who feels insecure and burnt out, and BJ, screwed over by the timezones, which makes him asleep at the most critical times and awake at the most empty times. Applications would be a good idea.

We also need to all take a chill pill and keep this light in our heads that reminds us about this argument so it doesn't restart again. I already did essays and climaxes before to fix small problems but this one really had to talk about every single recent problem so we could figure a solution out.

This website is worsening by the minute and it's terrible how the Discord part is so much better. No ban hammer that is always talked about by some people but never dared to be used by those same people. Chill staff, more mature people and senseful arguments.

This community is becoming so bad and bad and even worse than I thought it ever could. When I think it cannot gets worse, it just does. And now the website is constantly either ultra boring, on the edge, or problematic. While the precedent years were nothing like that. I'm not even here that much due to 2 months long vacation but as far as I saw this is the worst this community has ever been. It's messy asf.

I think that we can also take a look at the 2018 times. Lower activity, people liked each other, no senseless arguments, a friendly ambiance, many events, news and etc. To a MKPC today where projects are hardly done and where it's really just... shit.

I guess I'm off, I really needed to get this off my chest. Sorry if it's too long ig...

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Messages 203 - Toad Toad
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This community is not going well...
I definitively think it's not a secret anymore: This community is going quite unwell.

And by quite, I mean more, but let's get into that in detail so we can all understand what has been going on and find actual solutions, because nothing is going on and the site can't become any worse or its sake will be consideraby damaged.

And now let me add some disclaimers : this is gonna mention names and this is gonna talk about recent arguments. I don't care if I get a warning for addressing this, it is needed at the moment, and if nobody dares to get some dirt on their hands this situation won't improve. Welp guess it's gonna be me.

Community before 2022
There weren't as many dramas back then. I wasn't here before 2020, 2020 got its dramas but it was overall much better. 2021 was a quite good year. You probably heard about the princesslucky situation... girl gone mad along with supersaga and it all stopped once she got banned. The community was overall better and the dramas were not as frequent. Now let's move on to where it got worse...

2022.
2022 was the year when Fways resigned as an admin, 2022 was the year when new moderators got added. The wave of new users happened and it started quite badly with Jey against Fways, an argument that.. could have just been avoided. The moderator scene was quite busy with many people applying. BJ03 and Max got selected. And Max... is gonna be mentioned much later in his own section. For now we willll ignore the recent events, and say he was a chilll person.

It also marked the arrival of the minimodding and of the nitpick era. Not a good thing if you ask me, and I was a major part of the problem. Now this has ceased, since Nudge, me, and Max hardly give a fuck about it, and it's better that way.

Names
Now we are getting to 2023 and I'm going to mention names because I can't really recall what happened when... but I can recall who did what.

KirbyBoy
Probably the most slandered dude on MKPC, he's even got a hate train at the time. What he did wasn't that much though, it was creating lots of unfunny memes (to the level of spam) and complaining about various things. He took more than he deserved. His spam of memes was definitively annoying and irrelevant, but I'll say it loud and clear : we overreacted about him. He was still immature and not taking any advice... but we might have made feel belittled for something that honestly, we took too seriously, and I feel bad.

Bluey
Spam of memes that didn't even try and ultimate stubbornness, KB without the complaints and without the hate train and the slander.

Tendo
Not a heart filled with harm but extremely harmful actions. He started his shit back in 2022, what he did was mainly creating alts that had racist names (FuckUkraine, etc.) Alts that seeked attention (they had their tea salon moment and created a whole story on sfa for literally nothing.) Alts that pretended to be someone else (his brother) and that used homophoic slurs (faggot).

He was very annoying throughout the whole existence he had here, acted immaturely, went against rules and didn't care because he was the kind of dude to criticize every one of em... and he also posted a lot of useless messages. A dude who didn't bully anyone, but what he did was still terrible and he got permanently banned, despite trying to come back many times, by ban evading, but with time people got more and more suspicious and better at finding out who's Tendo and who's not.

That was stupid and annoying, and our poor reactions to that didn't quite help the situation. But there's still more to say.

Coopa/Finigi/ThePanFlute
It would be a lie to say his recent slight glowup made him perfect, but it would be a lie to say it is non-existent. That man literally posted way too many messages, irrelevant and useless ones, and was overall quite immature and annoying. He became provocative at some point too and did a lot of shit after one of his bans (he got banned twice) but overall I can't really recall everything properly. I know that my reactions to that might have been way too much, and I won't say I was overall feeling good at that time, but it's searching excuses and I'm ready to take this part of the blame. But let's move on eventually, he's becoming better by the day.

48HourKet
This dude was literally just a rude person to almost everyone and used insults too many times. Until that moment we couldn't really lay a finger on him because he didn't broke the rules or anything. But then, he started fatshaming someone he didn't even know (which makes no sense) and wished death upon people.

Although Pianta agreed with his views (not his messages and I got the personal confirmation) most people found him to be violent and annoying, to the extent that after wishing death and fatshaming upon several people for absolutely no reason, Ryubix permanently banned him for once and for good, without any sanctions before.

Me/Max/Pianta
Yup yup, there has also been a whole problem going on and I was the center of it. April has been filled of it : fights between Max, me and Pianta. And it was ENDLESS ! Because we were too stubborn,
I admit... and I was wound up at that time so I also took everything badly, add that to language barriers and you've got a catastrophe scenario. It eventually got fixed with BJ03 creating a topic about the matters because it was really going to be endless... I apologize if I created problems during that period. But for now, let's move on and get on the recent side of things.

Suprothetteglerr/SCG
Literally a lot of spam and useless messages for nothing, immature actions and annoying behavior. But those people? Let me tell you ? They aren't very important. They did some problems on this website but they aren't the ones who pushed me to writing this very long climax.

I could say things about Chilli who played the victim and tried to shade other people and got mad at other people for nothing. Or even Jey (more in detail) for his whole drama story from March to June 2022. Or even the Jey/orchid/anthcny endless situation... But let's get onto the current problem...

The whole PrimeTime situation
Yup. And I'm going to say it loud and clear ; the PT movement was on the thin edge since the mere beginning. It was all about to fall down into the depths and it eventually did with ONE investigation.

I already knew it was fragile. PT arrived here and literally was known as the dude who invited Yoshizilla to play online and eventually made that person mad. But with time he arrived back as a rude and tough person. And then he started praising literally most people on this website. It soon became a movement: the positivity spreading movement. On the paper it sounds quite good, but the execution was poor, since everything was all too much. And I wanted to express how fragile it was, but I didn't want to cause an argument, because the PT stans tend to be delusional and blinded.

Notably with HonorableMentions, the girl who had beef with me for no absolute reason. I slightly criticized a topic she made and she got mad over it. This started mutual beef and we had to discuss during hours to fix it in private. But it wasn't fixed... since she eventually called Wal a snake for the investigation he did about PT's age. Nodac also supported HM and PT. This trio was supporting every of the members and it ended up by a ban to HM and that's it.

No that's not it. PrimeTime got mad over that and started to become way more violent and way more sexually explicit in the way he talked. He started to shade SuperYoshiKart, who was always criticized by the trio. That was an useless thing to do. And it just showed, that everything Wal and I said was right. I once said that this was just a positive persona that they put on and Wal once said he was too immature to be the wise man he pretends to be at 55.

Welp, if he really wanted to spread positivity, why did he start to spread negativity once his movement failed due to all the immaturity people had in the recent arguments? Why did we went from "Y'ALL ARE LEGENDS AND EVERYDAY HERE FEELS LIKE A BIRTHDAY BECAUSE OUR MOVEMENT MAKES THIS SITE SO POSITIVE OMG IT FEELS SO GOOD" to "CALLING OUT THE BUTT LICKING CROTCH SNIFFING RAT I WILL ROCK HIM IN THE JAW HIM WITH HIS MOMMA" ?

This whole PT movement seems like one of those dreams that don't actually make sense. Something that already feels old and rotten now. Something that you believe on at first, but that then deceives you. It doesn't make sense when you think about it. Everybody believed in PT's positivity movement, more or less. But if we're going to formulate it like him during this era "the job of helping champions to everyday become better people seems to have token a toll on him." Or in other words, his whole persona fell all down when we got enough things to ban one of his friends. Might as well not lie huh ? Because still using the words "champions" and etc. is great but useless, I'm telling you. People won't follow you now that you showed how much of a violent prick you can be. Hiding yourself behind a veil of lies is not going to help anything. We saw your true colors and there's no going back now.

And the staff, the poor staff had to handle this. They had to handle what no absolute staff member wishes to ; a senseless, violent and hot headed argument where nearly nobody is right yet almost everybody takes part in. Max didn't even understand any of the bullshit and just sent it to the other staff members.

This summarizes why most of the older staff leaves and why most of the older players either leave or don't spend much time here anymore. Fways and Mudky are very active on MKPC Discord servers. Because even if Discord has bad sides its so much better than it is here right now. If there's an argument it's settled rapidly and it tends to be way less frequent. People also take the jokes better since it's a more mature branch of people. But on here, everyone will go crazy over nothing and everyone will overreact and run around like headless sheeps that lost each other...

Even Max is part of the problem. Arguments with Pianta and with many other people, especially on Discord, even with me sometimes. Moderators need to be calm and make people feel secure and not create any problems, turns out Max tends to do the opposite to the burnout this job has given him.

Solutions
We need new staff to help the current team. Infi and Ahmad are much more active on Discord than on here, Ahmad being the only one at some point. Fways is just an event host, Ryubix is all focused on events, Wargor on making the game better. That leaves us with two : Max, who feels insecure and burnt out, and BJ, screwed over by the timezones, which makes him asleep at the most critical times and awake at the most empty times. Applications would be a good idea.

We also need to all take a chill pill and keep this light in our heads that reminds us about this argument so it doesn't restart again. I already did essays and climaxes before to fix small problems but this one really had to talk about every single recent problem so we could figure a solution out.

This website is worsening by the minute and it's terrible how the Discord part is so much better. No ban hammer that is always talked about by some people but never dared to be used by those same people. Chill staff, more mature people and senseful arguments.

This community is becoming so bad and bad and even worse than I thought it ever could. When I think it cannot gets worse, it just does. And now the website is constantly either ultra boring, on the edge, or problematic. While the precedent years were nothing like that. I'm not even here that much due to 2 months long vacation but as far as I saw this is the worst this community has ever been. It's messy asf.

I think that we can also take a look at the 2018 times. Lower activity, people liked each other, no senseless arguments, a friendly ambiance, many events, news and etc. To a MKPC today where projects are hardly done and where it's really just... shit.

I guess I'm off, I really needed to get this off my chest. Sorry if it's too long ig...

We do not speak of Princesslucky

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They say intense love does that to people
Your heart's been aching, but you're too shy to say it...

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This community is not going well...
I definitively think it's not a secret anymore: This community is going quite unwell.

And by quite, I mean more, but let's get into that in detail so we can all understand what has been going on and find actual solutions, because nothing is going on and the site can't become any worse or its sake will be consideraby damaged.

And now let me add some disclaimers : this is gonna mention names and this is gonna talk about recent arguments. I don't care if I get a warning for addressing this, it is needed at the moment, and if nobody dares to get some dirt on their hands this situation won't improve. Welp guess it's gonna be me.

Community before 2022
There weren't as many dramas back then. I wasn't here before 2020, 2020 got its dramas but it was overall much better. 2021 was a quite good year. You probably heard about the princesslucky situation... girl gone mad along with supersaga and it all stopped once she got banned. The community was overall better and the dramas were not as frequent. Now let's move on to where it got worse...

2022.
2022 was the year when Fways resigned as an admin, 2022 was the year when new moderators got added. The wave of new users happened and it started quite badly with Jey against Fways, an argument that.. could have just been avoided. The moderator scene was quite busy with many people applying. BJ03 and Max got selected. And Max... is gonna be mentioned much later in his own section. For now we willll ignore the recent events, and say he was a chilll person.

It also marked the arrival of the minimodding and of the nitpick era. Not a good thing if you ask me, and I was a major part of the problem. Now this has ceased, since Nudge, me, and Max hardly give a fuck about it, and it's better that way.

Names
Now we are getting to 2023 and I'm going to mention names because I can't really recall what happened when... but I can recall who did what.

KirbyBoy
Probably the most slandered dude on MKPC, he's even got a hate train at the time. What he did wasn't that much though, it was creating lots of unfunny memes (to the level of spam) and complaining about various things. He took more than he deserved. His spam of memes was definitively annoying and irrelevant, but I'll say it loud and clear : we overreacted about him. He was still immature and not taking any advice... but we might have made feel belittled for something that honestly, we took too seriously, and I feel bad.

Bluey
Spam of memes that didn't even try and ultimate stubbornness, KB without the complaints and without the hate train and the slander.

Tendo
Not a heart filled with harm but extremely harmful actions. He started his shit back in 2022, what he did was mainly creating alts that had racist names (FuckUkraine, etc.) Alts that seeked attention (they had their tea salon moment and created a whole story on sfa for literally nothing.) Alts that pretended to be someone else (his brother) and that used homophoic slurs (faggot).

He was very annoying throughout the whole existence he had here, acted immaturely, went against rules and didn't care because he was the kind of dude to criticize every one of em... and he also posted a lot of useless messages. A dude who didn't bully anyone, but what he did was still terrible and he got permanently banned, despite trying to come back many times, by ban evading, but with time people got more and more suspicious and better at finding out who's Tendo and who's not.

That was stupid and annoying, and our poor reactions to that didn't quite help the situation. But there's still more to say.

Coopa/Finigi/ThePanFlute
It would be a lie to say his recent slight glowup made him perfect, but it would be a lie to say it is non-existent. That man literally posted way too many messages, irrelevant and useless ones, and was overall quite immature and annoying. He became provocative at some point too and did a lot of shit after one of his bans (he got banned twice) but overall I can't really recall everything properly. I know that my reactions to that might have been way too much, and I won't say I was overall feeling good at that time, but it's searching excuses and I'm ready to take this part of the blame. But let's move on eventually, he's becoming better by the day.

48HourKet
This dude was literally just a rude person to almost everyone and used insults too many times. Until that moment we couldn't really lay a finger on him because he didn't broke the rules or anything. But then, he started fatshaming someone he didn't even know (which makes no sense) and wished death upon people.

Although Pianta agreed with his views (not his messages and I got the personal confirmation) most people found him to be violent and annoying, to the extent that after wishing death and fatshaming upon several people for absolutely no reason, Ryubix permanently banned him for once and for good, without any sanctions before.

Me/Max/Pianta
Yup yup, there has also been a whole problem going on and I was the center of it. April has been filled of it : fights between Max, me and Pianta. And it was ENDLESS ! Because we were too stubborn,
I admit... and I was wound up at that time so I also took everything badly, add that to language barriers and you've got a catastrophe scenario. It eventually got fixed with BJ03 creating a topic about the matters because it was really going to be endless... I apologize if I created problems during that period. But for now, let's move on and get on the recent side of things.

Suprothetteglerr/SCG
Literally a lot of spam and useless messages for nothing, immature actions and annoying behavior. But those people? Let me tell you ? They aren't very important. They did some problems on this website but they aren't the ones who pushed me to writing this very long climax.

I could say things about Chilli who played the victim and tried to shade other people and got mad at other people for nothing. Or even Jey (more in detail) for his whole drama story from March to June 2022. Or even the Jey/orchid/anthcny endless situation... But let's get onto the current problem...

The whole PrimeTime situation
Yup. And I'm going to say it loud and clear ; the PT movement was on the thin edge since the mere beginning. It was all about to fall down into the depths and it eventually did with ONE investigation.

I already knew it was fragile. PT arrived here and literally was known as the dude who invited Yoshizilla to play online and eventually made that person mad. But with time he arrived back as a rude and tough person. And then he started praising literally most people on this website. It soon became a movement: the positivity spreading movement. On the paper it sounds quite good, but the execution was poor, since everything was all too much. And I wanted to express how fragile it was, but I didn't want to cause an argument, because the PT stans tend to be delusional and blinded.

Notably with HonorableMentions, the girl who had beef with me for no absolute reason. I slightly criticized a topic she made and she got mad over it. This started mutual beef and we had to discuss during hours to fix it in private. But it wasn't fixed... since she eventually called Wal a snake for the investigation he did about PT's age. Nodac also supported HM and PT. This trio was supporting every of the members and it ended up by a ban to HM and that's it.

No that's not it. PrimeTime got mad over that and started to become way more violent and way more sexually explicit in the way he talked. He started to shade SuperYoshiKart, who was always criticized by the trio. That was an useless thing to do. And it just showed, that everything Wal and I said was right. I once said that this was just a positive persona that they put on and Wal once said he was too immature to be the wise man he pretends to be at 55.

Welp, if he really wanted to spread positivity, why did he start to spread negativity once his movement failed due to all the immaturity people had in the recent arguments? Why did we went from "Y'ALL ARE LEGENDS AND EVERYDAY HERE FEELS LIKE A BIRTHDAY BECAUSE OUR MOVEMENT MAKES THIS SITE SO POSITIVE OMG IT FEELS SO GOOD" to "CALLING OUT THE BUTT LICKING CROTCH SNIFFING RAT I WILL ROCK HIM IN THE JAW HIM WITH HIS MOMMA" ?

This whole PT movement seems like one of those dreams that don't actually make sense. Something that already feels old and rotten now. Something that you believe on at first, but that then deceives you. It doesn't make sense when you think about it. Everybody believed in PT's positivity movement, more or less. But if we're going to formulate it like him during this era "the job of helping champions to everyday become better people seems to have token a toll on him." Or in other words, his whole persona fell all down when we got enough things to ban one of his friends. Might as well not lie huh ? Because still using the words "champions" and etc. is great but useless, I'm telling you. People won't follow you now that you showed how much of a violent prick you can be. Hiding yourself behind a veil of lies is not going to help anything. We saw your true colors and there's no going back now.

And the staff, the poor staff had to handle this. They had to handle what no absolute staff member wishes to ; a senseless, violent and hot headed argument where nearly nobody is right yet almost everybody takes part in. Max didn't even understand any of the bullshit and just sent it to the other staff members.

This summarizes why most of the older staff leaves and why most of the older players either leave or don't spend much time here anymore. Fways and Mudky are very active on MKPC Discord servers. Because even if Discord has bad sides its so much better than it is here right now. If there's an argument it's settled rapidly and it tends to be way less frequent. People also take the jokes better since it's a more mature branch of people. But on here, everyone will go crazy over nothing and everyone will overreact and run around like headless sheeps that lost each other...

Even Max is part of the problem. Arguments with Pianta and with many other people, especially on Discord, even with me sometimes. Moderators need to be calm and make people feel secure and not create any problems, turns out Max tends to do the opposite to the burnout this job has given him.

Solutions
We need new staff to help the current team. Infi and Ahmad are much more active on Discord than on here, Ahmad being the only one at some point. Fways is just an event host, Ryubix is all focused on events, Wargor on making the game better. That leaves us with two : Max, who feels insecure and burnt out, and BJ, screwed over by the timezones, which makes him asleep at the most critical times and awake at the most empty times. Applications would be a good idea.

We also need to all take a chill pill and keep this light in our heads that reminds us about this argument so it doesn't restart again. I already did essays and climaxes before to fix small problems but this one really had to talk about every single recent problem so we could figure a solution out.

This website is worsening by the minute and it's terrible how the Discord part is so much better. No ban hammer that is always talked about by some people but never dared to be used by those same people. Chill staff, more mature people and senseful arguments.

This community is becoming so bad and bad and even worse than I thought it ever could. When I think it cannot gets worse, it just does. And now the website is constantly either ultra boring, on the edge, or problematic. While the precedent years were nothing like that. I'm not even here that much due to 2 months long vacation but as far as I saw this is the worst this community has ever been. It's messy asf.

I think that we can also take a look at the 2018 times. Lower activity, people liked each other, no senseless arguments, a friendly ambiance, many events, news and etc. To a MKPC today where projects are hardly done and where it's really just... shit.

I guess I'm off, I really needed to get this off my chest. Sorry if it's too long ig...

We do not speak of Princesslucky

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Your heart's been aching, but you're too shy to say it...

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This community is not going well...
I definitively think it's not a secret anymore: This community is going quite unwell.

And by quite, I mean more, but let's get into that in detail so we can all understand what has been going on and find actual solutions, because nothing is going on and the site can't become any worse or its sake will be consideraby damaged.

And now let me add some disclaimers : this is gonna mention names and this is gonna talk about recent arguments. I don't care if I get a warning for addressing this, it is needed at the moment, and if nobody dares to get some dirt on their hands this situation won't improve. Welp guess it's gonna be me.

Community before 2022
There weren't as many dramas back then. I wasn't here before 2020, 2020 got its dramas but it was overall much better. 2021 was a quite good year. You probably heard about the princesslucky situation... girl gone mad along with supersaga and it all stopped once she got banned. The community was overall better and the dramas were not as frequent. Now let's move on to where it got worse...

2022.
2022 was the year when Fways resigned as an admin, 2022 was the year when new moderators got added. The wave of new users happened and it started quite badly with Jey against Fways, an argument that.. could have just been avoided. The moderator scene was quite busy with many people applying. BJ03 and Max got selected. And Max... is gonna be mentioned much later in his own section. For now we willll ignore the recent events, and say he was a chilll person.

It also marked the arrival of the minimodding and of the nitpick era. Not a good thing if you ask me, and I was a major part of the problem. Now this has ceased, since Nudge, me, and Max hardly give a fuck about it, and it's better that way.

Names
Now we are getting to 2023 and I'm going to mention names because I can't really recall what happened when... but I can recall who did what.

KirbyBoy
Probably the most slandered dude on MKPC, he's even got a hate train at the time. What he did wasn't that much though, it was creating lots of unfunny memes (to the level of spam) and complaining about various things. He took more than he deserved. His spam of memes was definitively annoying and irrelevant, but I'll say it loud and clear : we overreacted about him. He was still immature and not taking any advice... but we might have made feel belittled for something that honestly, we took too seriously, and I feel bad.

Bluey
Spam of memes that didn't even try and ultimate stubbornness, KB without the complaints and without the hate train and the slander.

Tendo
Not a heart filled with harm but extremely harmful actions. He started his shit back in 2022, what he did was mainly creating alts that had racist names (FuckUkraine, etc.) Alts that seeked attention (they had their tea salon moment and created a whole story on sfa for literally nothing.) Alts that pretended to be someone else (his brother) and that used homophoic slurs (faggot).

He was very annoying throughout the whole existence he had here, acted immaturely, went against rules and didn't care because he was the kind of dude to criticize every one of em... and he also posted a lot of useless messages. A dude who didn't bully anyone, but what he did was still terrible and he got permanently banned, despite trying to come back many times, by ban evading, but with time people got more and more suspicious and better at finding out who's Tendo and who's not.

That was stupid and annoying, and our poor reactions to that didn't quite help the situation. But there's still more to say.

Coopa/Finigi/ThePanFlute
It would be a lie to say his recent slight glowup made him perfect, but it would be a lie to say it is non-existent. That man literally posted way too many messages, irrelevant and useless ones, and was overall quite immature and annoying. He became provocative at some point too and did a lot of shit after one of his bans (he got banned twice) but overall I can't really recall everything properly. I know that my reactions to that might have been way too much, and I won't say I was overall feeling good at that time, but it's searching excuses and I'm ready to take this part of the blame. But let's move on eventually, he's becoming better by the day.

48HourKet
This dude was literally just a rude person to almost everyone and used insults too many times. Until that moment we couldn't really lay a finger on him because he didn't broke the rules or anything. But then, he started fatshaming someone he didn't even know (which makes no sense) and wished death upon people.

Although Pianta agreed with his views (not his messages and I got the personal confirmation) most people found him to be violent and annoying, to the extent that after wishing death and fatshaming upon several people for absolutely no reason, Ryubix permanently banned him for once and for good, without any sanctions before.

Me/Max/Pianta
Yup yup, there has also been a whole problem going on and I was the center of it. April has been filled of it : fights between Max, me and Pianta. And it was ENDLESS ! Because we were too stubborn,
I admit... and I was wound up at that time so I also took everything badly, add that to language barriers and you've got a catastrophe scenario. It eventually got fixed with BJ03 creating a topic about the matters because it was really going to be endless... I apologize if I created problems during that period. But for now, let's move on and get on the recent side of things.

Suprothetteglerr/SCG
Literally a lot of spam and useless messages for nothing, immature actions and annoying behavior. But those people? Let me tell you ? They aren't very important. They did some problems on this website but they aren't the ones who pushed me to writing this very long climax.

I could say things about Chilli who played the victim and tried to shade other people and got mad at other people for nothing. Or even Jey (more in detail) for his whole drama story from March to June 2022. Or even the Jey/orchid/anthcny endless situation... But let's get onto the current problem...

The whole PrimeTime situation
Yup. And I'm going to say it loud and clear ; the PT movement was on the thin edge since the mere beginning. It was all about to fall down into the depths and it eventually did with ONE investigation.

I already knew it was fragile. PT arrived here and literally was known as the dude who invited Yoshizilla to play online and eventually made that person mad. But with time he arrived back as a rude and tough person. And then he started praising literally most people on this website. It soon became a movement: the positivity spreading movement. On the paper it sounds quite good, but the execution was poor, since everything was all too much. And I wanted to express how fragile it was, but I didn't want to cause an argument, because the PT stans tend to be delusional and blinded.

Notably with HonorableMentions, the girl who had beef with me for no absolute reason. I slightly criticized a topic she made and she got mad over it. This started mutual beef and we had to discuss during hours to fix it in private. But it wasn't fixed... since she eventually called Wal a snake for the investigation he did about PT's age. Nodac also supported HM and PT. This trio was supporting every of the members and it ended up by a ban to HM and that's it.

No that's not it. PrimeTime got mad over that and started to become way more violent and way more sexually explicit in the way he talked. He started to shade SuperYoshiKart, who was always criticized by the trio. That was an useless thing to do. And it just showed, that everything Wal and I said was right. I once said that this was just a positive persona that they put on and Wal once said he was too immature to be the wise man he pretends to be at 55.

Welp, if he really wanted to spread positivity, why did he start to spread negativity once his movement failed due to all the immaturity people had in the recent arguments? Why did we went from "Y'ALL ARE LEGENDS AND EVERYDAY HERE FEELS LIKE A BIRTHDAY BECAUSE OUR MOVEMENT MAKES THIS SITE SO POSITIVE OMG IT FEELS SO GOOD" to "CALLING OUT THE BUTT LICKING CROTCH SNIFFING RAT I WILL ROCK HIM IN THE JAW HIM WITH HIS MOMMA" ?

This whole PT movement seems like one of those dreams that don't actually make sense. Something that already feels old and rotten now. Something that you believe on at first, but that then deceives you. It doesn't make sense when you think about it. Everybody believed in PT's positivity movement, more or less. But if we're going to formulate it like him during this era "the job of helping champions to everyday become better people seems to have token a toll on him." Or in other words, his whole persona fell all down when we got enough things to ban one of his friends. Might as well not lie huh ? Because still using the words "champions" and etc. is great but useless, I'm telling you. People won't follow you now that you showed how much of a violent prick you can be. Hiding yourself behind a veil of lies is not going to help anything. We saw your true colors and there's no going back now.

And the staff, the poor staff had to handle this. They had to handle what no absolute staff member wishes to ; a senseless, violent and hot headed argument where nearly nobody is right yet almost everybody takes part in. Max didn't even understand any of the bullshit and just sent it to the other staff members.

This summarizes why most of the older staff leaves and why most of the older players either leave or don't spend much time here anymore. Fways and Mudky are very active on MKPC Discord servers. Because even if Discord has bad sides its so much better than it is here right now. If there's an argument it's settled rapidly and it tends to be way less frequent. People also take the jokes better since it's a more mature branch of people. But on here, everyone will go crazy over nothing and everyone will overreact and run around like headless sheeps that lost each other...

Even Max is part of the problem. Arguments with Pianta and with many other people, especially on Discord, even with me sometimes. Moderators need to be calm and make people feel secure and not create any problems, turns out Max tends to do the opposite to the burnout this job has given him.

Solutions
We need new staff to help the current team. Infi and Ahmad are much more active on Discord than on here, Ahmad being the only one at some point. Fways is just an event host, Ryubix is all focused on events, Wargor on making the game better. That leaves us with two : Max, who feels insecure and burnt out, and BJ, screwed over by the timezones, which makes him asleep at the most critical times and awake at the most empty times. Applications would be a good idea.

We also need to all take a chill pill and keep this light in our heads that reminds us about this argument so it doesn't restart again. I already did essays and climaxes before to fix small problems but this one really had to talk about every single recent problem so we could figure a solution out.

This website is worsening by the minute and it's terrible how the Discord part is so much better. No ban hammer that is always talked about by some people but never dared to be used by those same people. Chill staff, more mature people and senseful arguments.

This community is becoming so bad and bad and even worse than I thought it ever could. When I think it cannot gets worse, it just does. And now the website is constantly either ultra boring, on the edge, or problematic. While the precedent years were nothing like that. I'm not even here that much due to 2 months long vacation but as far as I saw this is the worst this community has ever been. It's messy asf.

I think that we can also take a look at the 2018 times. Lower activity, people liked each other, no senseless arguments, a friendly ambiance, many events, news and etc. To a MKPC today where projects are hardly done and where it's really just... shit.

I guess I'm off, I really needed to get this off my chest. Sorry if it's too long ig...

We do not speak of Princesslucky

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A body has been discovered!

The beast's fury has grown too strong. The light of the Explosive Balls can no longer keep it at bay...
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