The problem with MKPC
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We're back into a situation where MKPC is having constant problems, just like when Max made his topic. We seem to be having problems happening everyday. Most of the time these are either avoidable dramas or someone breaking a rule, especially that last one, since a million people seem to break a rule everyday. As for the solution, we have to rely on Max to deal with them, as the only other active moderator is Tox, who is usually asleep when everything happens. There is also Ahmad, though he isnt the most active. This in turn causes problems for max:
The worst thing is, there isnt much we can do to deal with this. We just have to have hope that all this can stop, or that moderation can become more active again
No, but like I'm tired of having to deal with all this mess on my own, but shit I have a life, I'm not a banishment machine, plus almost no reaction was relevant, so at least calm down 😭
I'm going to have an existential crisis here 😟
I'm going to have an existential crisis here 😟
The worst thing is, there isnt much we can do to deal with this. We just have to have hope that all this can stop, or that moderation can become more active again
Nous sommes de retour dans une situation où MKPC a des problèmes constants, tout comme lorsque Max a fait son sujet. Nous semblons avoir des problèmes qui se produisent tous les jours. La plupart du temps, ce sont soit des drames évitables, soit quelqu'un qui enfreint une règle, en particulier la dernière, car un million de personnes semblent enfreindre une règle chaque jour. Quant à la solution, nous devons compter sur Max pour y faire face, car le seul autre modérateur actif est Tox, qui dort généralement quand tout se passe. Il y a aussi Ahmad, même s'il n'est pas le plus actif. Cela pose à son tour des problèmes pour max:
Le pire, c'est que nous ne pouvons pas faire grand-chose pour régler ce problème. Il faut juste espérer que tout cela puisse s'arrêter, ou que la modération redevienne plus active
Non mais genre j'en ai assez de devoir gérer tout ce bazar tout seul, mais merde j'ai une vie, je suis pas une machine à bannir, en plus quasiment aucune réaction était pertinente, donc calmez vous au moins 😭
Je vais faire une crise existentielle là 😟
Je vais faire une crise existentielle là 😟
Le pire, c'est que nous ne pouvons pas faire grand-chose pour régler ce problème. Il faut juste espérer que tout cela puisse s'arrêter, ou que la modération redevienne plus active
This has been an issue for more than 2 years but it's more apparent now because more members are joining MKPC. I really understand Max's position as being the only one to manage the forums because I was in his place however even if all the moderators were to be active, it wouldn't solve the problem because you would have more people breaking the rules which would become tedious to manage at some point. Another thing you should understand is the reasoning for moderators becoming less active. The forums as a whole has been tedious for every moderator to manage which leads to overall less active in the forums. The only solution is not to add more moderators as that's already been done but to make the forums more controlled and civilized which is no easy task.
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On 2023-02-23 at 11:06:11
De mon côté je peux toujours concevoir une IA qui aide les modos à gérer ça sur MKPC. Mais je vous avoue que je ne vois pas souvent d'infractions sur MKPC. Bizarre.
On 2023-02-23 at 11:14:48
De mon côté je peux toujours concevoir une IA qui aide les modos à gérer ça sur MKPC. Mais je vous avoue que je ne vois pas souvent d'infractions sur MKPC. Bizarre.
Il y a quand même eu une fanfiction qui brisait pas mal de règles de MKPC (porno, meurtres, etc.) en plus le topic à été refait sans marquer que c'était un topic +18, c'est devenu une source de spam.
On 2023-02-23 at 12:42:09
Je ne l'ai pas vu. Je ne sais pas de quoi ça parle
On 2023-02-23 at 16:03:47
It's really bad that MKPC is becoming this.
Let's hope it gets WAY better.
Let's hope it gets WAY better.
On 2023-02-23 at 16:08:54
Online mode chat is the most toxic thing I have ever seen. "N-words", insults, its all too much. Back when I joined in 2020, online chat was very polite and kind. Nowadays it's gone severely downhill and I hope that people can learn how to be kind again.
5On 2023-02-23 at 16:44:28
Online mode chat is the most toxic thing I have ever seen. "N-words", insults, its all too much. Back when I joined in 2020, online chat was very polite and kind. Nowadays it's gone severely downhill and I hope that people can learn how to be kind again.
It seems like people have forgotten about decency. And it really shows with these people being homophobic and racist. Human decency is just ignored now. I hate it.
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On 2023-02-23 at 16:48:41
Online mode chat is the most toxic thing I have ever seen. "N-words", insults, its all too much. Back when I joined in 2020, online chat was very polite and kind. Nowadays it's gone severely downhill and I hope that people can learn how to be kind again.
It seems like people have forgotten about decency. And it really shows with these people being homophobic and racist. Human decency is just ignored now. I hate it.
5On 2023-02-23 at 16:54:29
I feel like this is an issue with the internet as a whole, just open any social media app and you’ll see rampant toxicity. People hurling insults at each other. Stealing others comments in order to get likes and thinking that “who asked” is a great counterpoint to someone’s argument. These and other annoying behaviours are all commonplace on the internet. It seems that lately these behaviours have infested MKPC as they did with the rest of the internet, unfortunately there isn’t a way to stop people from acting this way. Unless the whole forum was removed which nobody wants to happen. I don’t know why but it MKPC was mostly free from this but it seems in the last 6-8 months or so it has become very common. When I first joined there was some drama I will admit that, but it was nowhere near what it’s like now. I really love MKPC and I want it to improve and more mods will help with this issue, but unfortunately it can never be truly solved only minimalized.
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1On 2023-02-23 at 17:10:30
I feel like this is an issue with the internet as a whole, just open any social media app and you’ll see rampant toxicity. People hurling insults at each other. Stealing others comments in order to get likes and thinking that “who asked” is a great counterpoint to someone’s argument. These and other annoying behaviours are all commonplace on the internet. It seems that lately these behaviours have infested MKPC as they did with the rest of the internet, unfortunately there isn’t a way to stop people from acting this way. Unless the whole forum was removed which nobody wants to happen. I don’t know why but it MKPC was mostly free from this but it seems in the last 6-8 months or so it has become very common. When I first joined there was some drama I will admit that, but it was nowhere near what it’s like now. I really love MKPC and I want it to improve and more mods will help with this issue, but unfortunately it can never be truly solved only minimalized.
Pianta and Noob opening their eyes and speaking the truth sheeeeeesh. I hate that this is true we’ve just turned into toxic addicted immature monkeys. I know it sounds kind of silly for me to say monkeys, but trust me on this. We’ve just turned into wild zoo animals that attack others because they have a different opinion, I don’t mean us when I say we. I’m referring to Twitter people.
5On 2023-02-23 at 17:19:12
I'm going to try update the rules when I get the chance, I can agree that there's been a lot of stuff happening recently, and a lot of it is hard to control.
Also, Lely should be mod.
Also, Lely should be mod.
One problem: Underage, but I would agree if it wasn’t for that
I'm aware, that's why it can't happen yet.
But Lely has shown lots of maturity and understanding, once he turns 13 I'd promote him straight away.
WHATTTTTTTTTT ?
How would I make a good mod though ? ;-;
I'm kind of happy that your opinion about me isn't negative, but... am I really mature enough?
Well, there's still 5 months and one week to think about it...
1On 2023-02-23 at 17:30:13
I'm going to try update the rules when I get the chance, I can agree that there's been a lot of stuff happening recently, and a lot of it is hard to control.
Also, Lely should be mod.
Also, Lely should be mod.
One problem: Underage, but I would agree if it wasn’t for that
I'm aware, that's why it can't happen yet.
But Lely has shown lots of maturity and understanding, once he turns 13 I'd promote him straight away.
WHATTTTTTTTTT ?
How would I make a good mod though ? ;-;
I'm kind of happy that your opinion about me isn't negative, but... am I really mature enough?
Well, there's still 5 months and one week to think about it...
Non mais tbh je suis d'accord avec Tox, et par pitié arrête de te sous-estimer comme ça, j'aime pas te voir comme ça
Sinon oui t'es mature, ok il existe des personnes encore plus matures mais pour ton âge t'es top tier de maturité
Et puis la question de "Est-ce que je ferais un bon modo ?", moi je me suis déjà posé cette question, et même bien avant que les candidatures de septembre dernier soient envisagées, et quand je suis devenu modo j'ai eu une petite période de stress à propos de ça, puis c'est passé tout seul, donc tkt, et puis en plus je vois pas autre chose qui t'empêcherai d'être modo en dehors de ton âge (btw dans le passé c'était même pas un problème car Revali avait bien été Animateur en ayant moins de 13 ans mais bon c'était le rôle d'Animateur c'est pas exactement pareil)
1On 2023-02-23 at 19:52:20
I'm going to try update the rules when I get the chance, I can agree that there's been a lot of stuff happening recently, and a lot of it is hard to control.
Also, Lely should be mod.
Also, Lely should be mod.
One problem: Underage, but I would agree if it wasn’t for that
I'm aware, that's why it can't happen yet.
But Lely has shown lots of maturity and understanding, once he turns 13 I'd promote him straight away.
WHATTTTTTTTTT ?
How would I make a good mod though ? ;-;
I'm kind of happy that your opinion about me isn't negative, but... am I really mature enough?
Well, there's still 5 months and one week to think about it...
Oui tu mérites tbh, mais après je vais dire mon opinion sur ce que je pense aussi (dsl pour le double post mais flemme un peu de tout mettre dans un même message condensé ça fait laid)
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1On 2023-02-23 at 20:03:52
I agree with Nudgy that there is a lot of dramas in the forums nowadays. The problem is there are a lot of different people in the forum, people that doesn't give a fuck about it, trollers, too severe/immature people and lack of experience so when they try to act like moderators it just give a terrible result. The forum isn't like in 2018 when they were 0 dramas, the community was welded etc... it changed so much unfortunately, there isn't anymore this atmosphere and will never come back.. that's why most of the "big" players and pillars for the comm like me (sorry for this, I know it sound a lot like flexing it's absolutely not the goal I just want to state a fact, dont want to hurt anyone) all left the forum and only are seriously active in discord and try to do tournaments, brings activity right there etc (the only activity I manage in the forum is my fanfic but it's very low if I compare to my activity past years, now im totally active in discord and tracks etc), btw I won't just say how much it changes negative because everyone knows it and it would just be repetitive. So I'll try to give solutions that in my opinion, could help, because an other problem with this forum is the lack of solutions as well, a lot of people complain about how forum changed negative (sometimes it's even because of them so it's a bit ironic) but never give solutions to it...
So that's what I'll try to do (ofc Im not saying you have to give solutions every time, and that they need to be good, but just try proposing), I'll propose some ideas, they could work in my opinion but it's my opinion, everyone has a different so just tell me what do you think about it :
- I will have to quote names for examples, sorry if it can hurt as well it's absolutely not the goal:
We should recruit mods for forums, and ONLY for forums, we have enough in discord tbh (ahmad & infi do pretty well their job), but I see some people that could be very good moderators on forum, but wouldn't really know how to manage a situation in discord
Dramas in discord are way less frequent because people are more mature here and know how to act,
so managing a drama in discord is kinda harder than in mkpc. The problem is the number of staff. We have 3 moderators (well 2 imo sorry..) that can manage well situations and dramas in discord, but clearly not enough in mkpc
Max-Bros for example, manages very goodly the forum, but he is the only one, and there are way more dramas to manage right here. So the help of some mature people like Lely, Nudgy etc would be very helpful in my opinion. But Max have way more difficulties managing the dramas there are in mkpc discord, that's why in my opinion some mods would be very good for forums, but "only" forums. Dw Max I'm absolutely not saying you are not doing well in discord, but you just have more difficulties right there and that's normal, the lack of experience etc doesn't help a lot, but I'm pretty sure you will progress on that and I encourage you
Anyway that's all for me
Tell me if you guys don't agree on something, or want to add something etc I'll answer with pleasure, but do it in a mature way please
So that's what I'll try to do (ofc Im not saying you have to give solutions every time, and that they need to be good, but just try proposing), I'll propose some ideas, they could work in my opinion but it's my opinion, everyone has a different so just tell me what do you think about it :
- I will have to quote names for examples, sorry if it can hurt as well it's absolutely not the goal:
We should recruit mods for forums, and ONLY for forums, we have enough in discord tbh (ahmad & infi do pretty well their job), but I see some people that could be very good moderators on forum, but wouldn't really know how to manage a situation in discord
Dramas in discord are way less frequent because people are more mature here and know how to act,
so managing a drama in discord is kinda harder than in mkpc. The problem is the number of staff. We have 3 moderators (well 2 imo sorry..) that can manage well situations and dramas in discord, but clearly not enough in mkpc
Max-Bros for example, manages very goodly the forum, but he is the only one, and there are way more dramas to manage right here. So the help of some mature people like Lely, Nudgy etc would be very helpful in my opinion. But Max have way more difficulties managing the dramas there are in mkpc discord, that's why in my opinion some mods would be very good for forums, but "only" forums. Dw Max I'm absolutely not saying you are not doing well in discord, but you just have more difficulties right there and that's normal, the lack of experience etc doesn't help a lot, but I'm pretty sure you will progress on that and I encourage you
Anyway that's all for me
Tell me if you guys don't agree on something, or want to add something etc I'll answer with pleasure, but do it in a mature way please7
7On 2023-02-23 at 20:06:06
I think this calls for a moderator election the last one was in like aguast or September so it has been about half a year
(sorry again for the triple post but I need it to quote)
It isn't a good idea in my opinion because it is more based on popularity, we saw it last years with the experience we got. And an other problem is that maturity in the forum is kinda low now so people would just vote mostly for their friends etc, and some people that doesn't deserve the role and knows absolutely nothing about moderation could even win the election. That's why it is bad nowadays, if they were the comm of some years ago yeah why not. I hope you understand ^^
66On 2023-02-23 at 20:08:15
I think this calls for a moderator election the last one was in like aguast or September so it has been about half a year
(sorry again for the triple post but I need it to quote)
It isn't a good idea in my opinion because it is more based on popularity, we saw it last years with the experience we got. And an other problem is that maturity in the forum is kinda low now so people would just vote mostly for their friends etc, and some people that doesn't deserve the role and knows absolutely nothing about moderation could even win the election. That's why it is bad nowadays, if they were the comm of some years ago yeah why not. I hope you understand ^^
I think he meant the mod applications where the moderators would choose who became mod, and just forgot what it was called
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1On 2023-02-23 at 20:09:27
I think this calls for a moderator election the last one was in like aguast or September so it has been about half a year
(sorry again for the triple post but I need it to quote)
It isn't a good idea in my opinion because it is more based on popularity, we saw it last years with the experience we got. And an other problem is that maturity in the forum is kinda low now so people would just vote mostly for their friends etc, and some people that doesn't deserve the role and knows absolutely nothing about moderation could even win the election. That's why it is bad nowadays, if they were the comm of some years ago yeah why not. I hope you understand ^^
I think he meant the mod applications where the moderators would choose who became mod, and just forgot what it was called
Oh yeah, if it's the idea then yes, I agree
On 2023-02-23 at 20:13:03
4 words: Human decency and maturity (I know those are actually 6 words if you think about it but let’s not say that because that’s the least of our worries rn) All of them are gone now. Reduced to atoms. Human decency is gone because people keep spamming the n word on online chat and there’s been a DDOS attack and people just being racist + homophobic overall. And then maturity is gone because, oh my god do NOT get me STARTED on how much spam there is on the forums. I would go batshit insane if that’s all we get for the next few years.
On 2023-02-23 at 20:18:45
4 words: Human decency and maturity (I know those are actually 6 words if you think about it but let’s not say that because that’s the least of our worries rn) All of them are gone now. Reduced to atoms. Human decency is gone because people keep spamming the n word on online chat and there’s been a DDOS attack and people just being racist + homophobic overall. And then maturity is gone because, oh my god do NOT get me STARTED on how much spam there is on the forums. I would go batshit insane if that’s all we get for the next few years.
swear filter maybe?
ryubix doesnt give a shit about ppl asking to remove the swear filter in the discord, so maybe we should add it here?
If There Is One, I Hope It Isn't Like the Roblox One
On 2023-02-23 at 20:21:05
4 words: Human decency and maturity (I know those are actually 6 words if you think about it but let’s not say that because that’s the least of our worries rn) All of them are gone now. Reduced to atoms. Human decency is gone because people keep spamming the n word on online chat and there’s been a DDOS attack and people just being racist + homophobic overall. And then maturity is gone because, oh my god do NOT get me STARTED on how much spam there is on the forums. I would go batshit insane if that’s all we get for the next few years.
swear filter maybe?
ryubix doesnt give a shit about ppl asking to remove the swear filter in the discord, so maybe we should add it here?
If There Is One, I Hope It Isn't Like the Roblox One
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