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(you did not sleep with her)

Yeah the line was too long. ;)
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you're welcome.
also I will reply in advance to your rage insult
you wil probably say...
"I SLEPT WITH YOUR MOTHER"
to that I say "way to go"
hope you have a nice day.
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The_Garfield_Gamer was just stating his opinion. You're free to agree or disagree, by explaining why you liked the game, or not. The "you suck" wasn't really useful though.

Don't start provoking people because of that, please. It would just be childish and a waste of time for everyone.

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The Wii is so hard
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No way, bro. Mario Kart Wii is a masterpiece.
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Nope2008 wrote:
No way, bro. Mario Kart Wii is a masterpiece.


That's a really good game yup, but it has its flaws, like the horrible controls, some bland retro tracks, and the overbugged races. I'm tired of seeing insane shortcuts in TAS.
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Nope2008 wrote:
No way, bro. Mario Kart Wii is a masterpiece.


That's a really good game yup, but it has its flaws, like the horrible controls, some bland retro tracks, and the overbugged races. I'm tired of seeing insane shortcuts in TAS.


oh yeah, some of the retro tracks were bland, and the controls were all messed up I had to change them.
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Nope2008 wrote:
Lely5B wrote:
Nope2008 wrote:
No way, bro. Mario Kart Wii is a masterpiece.


That's a really good game yup, but it has its flaws, like the horrible controls, some bland retro tracks, and the overbugged races. I'm tired of seeing insane shortcuts in TAS.


oh yeah, some of the retro tracks were bland, and the controls were all messed up I had to change them.


At least with the retro tracks they didn't ruined te original, they always improved from the OG one. Some of them are sorta bland (especially the N64 mario racewayn, the SNES MC3 etc., and oh my god Sherbet Land is a horror) but they didn't ruined them like they did in DS. GCN tracks in DS were pain. They took Mushroom Bridge and masterpices like that, they ruined shortcuts, they ruined chaos, they ruined jankiness, they ruined ambiance.
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Lely5B wrote:
Nope2008 wrote:
No way, bro. Mario Kart Wii is a masterpiece.


That's a really good game yup, but it has its flaws, like the horrible controls, some bland retro tracks, and the overbugged races. I'm tired of seeing insane shortcuts in TAS.

That's honestly the most interesting thing about the game though, gameplay wise. The shortcuts done are signs of a dedicated community who want to push a game to its limits, and if stuff like this is possible, then I'm all for it. But take those away, and what's left? The gameplay is far less appealing to me, and it's a game left carried by its admittedly well-aged visuals and good tracks. But I'm someone who prefers the actual meat of a game, not the plate, and I see a dull game with poor balancing and jank everywhere
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I can see why people don't like it, but it was made to be a casual, chaotic entry for the series. It still added some stuff of value (tricks). While the game is pure jank(I agree), those of us who grew up on it(other people as well) like it. A lot of people here probably wouldn't be here if they didn't have a game growing up to love the series, and for some of us it was MKW.
Also, the item distribution is bad, but I don't have any problem with it(usually) Most that I find trouble with is TCs. It's more of a last lap come-from-behind game than lead-from-the-front.
I don't think the character unlocks are any problem (except Mii B) but I did multiplayer with my brother, so it took a while.
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InfiMK wrote:
Lely5B wrote:
Nope2008 wrote:
No way, bro. Mario Kart Wii is a masterpiece.


That's a really good game yup, but it has its flaws, like the horrible controls, some bland retro tracks, and the overbugged races. I'm tired of seeing insane shortcuts in TAS.

That's honestly the most interesting thing about the game though, gameplay wise. The shortcuts done are signs of a dedicated community who want to push a game to its limits, and if stuff like this is possible, then I'm all for it. But take those away, and what's left? The gameplay is far less appealing to me, and it's a game left carried by its admittedly well-aged visuals and good tracks. But I'm someone who prefers the actual meat of a game, not the plate, and I see a dull game with poor balancing and jank everywhere

tbh when you see the 6848595th shortcut you be like : idc. Also yeah the Community is dedicated but most of that is due to CTGP r
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Lely5B wrote:
InfiMK wrote:
Lely5B wrote:
Nope2008 wrote:
No way, bro. Mario Kart Wii is a masterpiece.


That's a really good game yup, but it has its flaws, like the horrible controls, some bland retro tracks, and the overbugged races. I'm tired of seeing insane shortcuts in TAS.

That's honestly the most interesting thing about the game though, gameplay wise. The shortcuts done are signs of a dedicated community who want to push a game to its limits, and if stuff like this is possible, then I'm all for it. But take those away, and what's left? The gameplay is far less appealing to me, and it's a game left carried by its admittedly well-aged visuals and good tracks. But I'm someone who prefers the actual meat of a game, not the plate, and I see a dull game with poor balancing and jank everywhere

tbh when you see the 6848595th shortcut you be like : idc. Also yeah the Community is dedicated but most of that is due to CTGP r

Nah, not really, I always enjoy seeing new discoveries on tracks. And yeah I can't exactly deny that the game's only alive because of CTGP, but that furthers my point. What would've happened if it didn't exist? The game wouldn't be as overrated as it is now
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InfiMK wrote:
Lely5B wrote:
InfiMK wrote:
Lely5B wrote:
Nope2008 wrote:
No way, bro. Mario Kart Wii is a masterpiece.


That's a really good game yup, but it has its flaws, like the horrible controls, some bland retro tracks, and the overbugged races. I'm tired of seeing insane shortcuts in TAS.

That's honestly the most interesting thing about the game though, gameplay wise. The shortcuts done are signs of a dedicated community who want to push a game to its limits, and if stuff like this is possible, then I'm all for it. But take those away, and what's left? The gameplay is far less appealing to me, and it's a game left carried by its admittedly well-aged visuals and good tracks. But I'm someone who prefers the actual meat of a game, not the plate, and I see a dull game with poor balancing and jank everywhere

tbh when you see the 6848595th shortcut you be like : idc. Also yeah the Community is dedicated but most of that is due to CTGP r

Nah, not really, I always enjoy seeing new discoveries on tracks. And yeah I can't exactly deny that the game's only alive because of CTGP, but that furthers my point. What would've happened if it didn't exist? The game wouldn't be as overrated as it is now

Wii is overrated ? Nah. Ds is overrated, mk64 is overrated and FNF is overrated
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InfiMK wrote:
Lely5B wrote:
InfiMK wrote:
Lely5B wrote:
Nope2008 wrote:
No way, bro. Mario Kart Wii is a masterpiece.


That's a really good game yup, but it has its flaws, like the horrible controls, some bland retro tracks, and the overbugged races. I'm tired of seeing insane shortcuts in TAS.

That's honestly the most interesting thing about the game though, gameplay wise. The shortcuts done are signs of a dedicated community who want to push a game to its limits, and if stuff like this is possible, then I'm all for it. But take those away, and what's left? The gameplay is far less appealing to me, and it's a game left carried by its admittedly well-aged visuals and good tracks. But I'm someone who prefers the actual meat of a game, not the plate, and I see a dull game with poor balancing and jank everywhere

tbh when you see the 6848595th shortcut you be like : idc. Also yeah the Community is dedicated but most of that is due to CTGP r

Nah, not really, I always enjoy seeing new discoveries on tracks. And yeah I can't exactly deny that the game's only alive because of CTGP, but that furthers my point. What would've happened if it didn't exist? The game wouldn't be as overrated as it is now

The game still sold 39 million copies, so yes;)

In any case, there's CTGP for MK7 & MK8. CTGP isn't just a MKW thing, so that can't be the WHOLE reason. I always see people mention CTGPR when CTGP7 and CTGPU exist and are doing pretty well.

The only thing about CTGPR is that the hacking makes a crazy game even crazier. the whole point of MKW was to "flip" the series from a pattern that was becoming a little stale. The overratedness is just from the fact that it's a Wii game, and a super popular one too. A ton of people bought a Wii and played Wii Sports. It stands to reason that atleast for 10-20 more years after Wii Sports that a lot of people grabbed the latest Wii game. It's not necesarily a bad game either. Every Mario Kart game has it's problems. The console was to bring casual, everyday people into videogames, and to forget about the "Dolphin" crowd, who shouldn't complain when Nintendo's newest games aren't to their liking. (You guys literally have one of the best lineups in Nintendo's history, stop whining:(, let us have new stuff:(:()
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Kraze wrote:
InfiMK wrote:
Lely5B wrote:
InfiMK wrote:
Lely5B wrote:
Nope2008 wrote:
No way, bro. Mario Kart Wii is a masterpiece.


That's a really good game yup, but it has its flaws, like the horrible controls, some bland retro tracks, and the overbugged races. I'm tired of seeing insane shortcuts in TAS.

That's honestly the most interesting thing about the game though, gameplay wise. The shortcuts done are signs of a dedicated community who want to push a game to its limits, and if stuff like this is possible, then I'm all for it. But take those away, and what's left? The gameplay is far less appealing to me, and it's a game left carried by its admittedly well-aged visuals and good tracks. But I'm someone who prefers the actual meat of a game, not the plate, and I see a dull game with poor balancing and jank everywhere

tbh when you see the 6848595th shortcut you be like : idc. Also yeah the Community is dedicated but most of that is due to CTGP r

Nah, not really, I always enjoy seeing new discoveries on tracks. And yeah I can't exactly deny that the game's only alive because of CTGP, but that furthers my point. What would've happened if it didn't exist? The game wouldn't be as overrated as it is now

The game still sold 39 million copies, so yes;)

In any case, there's CTGP for MK7 & MK8. CTGP isn't just a MKW thing, so that can't be the WHOLE reason. I always see people mention CTGPR when CTGP7 and CTGPU exist and are doing pretty well.

The only thing about CTGPR is that the hacking makes a crazy game even crazier. the whole point of MKW was to "flip" the series from a pattern that was becoming a little stale. The overratedness is just from the fact that it's a Wii game, and a super popular one too. A ton of people bought a Wii and played Wii Sports. It stands to reason that atleast for 10-20 more years after Wii Sports that a lot of people grabbed the latest Wii game. It's not necesarily a bad game either. Every Mario Kart game has it's problems. The console was to bring casual, everyday people into videogames, and to forget about the "Dolphin" crowd, who shouldn't complain when Nintendo's newest games aren't to their liking. (You guys literally have one of the best lineups in Nintendo's history, stop whining:(, let us have new stuff:(:()

Highest sales =/= the best game, look at MK8DX. The point I was making is that the game is very much kept alive by CTGP-R, while the same isn't exactly said for MK7 and 8. They're successful yes, but the game's longevity doesn't revolve around it.

As for the pattern becoming stale, I'm a firm believer of "don't fix what isn't broken", and even then I don't believe that the MK formula was getting stale. Each game was different in its own right and not a blatant copy-paste of the last one. Especially with the more recent titles, such as Double Dash having the mechanic of two characters and being able to switch out items at will, and DS expanding upon the character + kart concept.
Lastly, no. It's not a bad game, for sure. But it's still one of the weaker titles in my opinion, if we're talking BASE GAME. While I'll admit I'm now seeing a lot of the MKs through a competitive lens, it's still a valid point to be made.
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Lely5B wrote:
InfiMK wrote:
Lely5B wrote:
InfiMK wrote:
Lely5B wrote:
Nope2008 wrote:
No way, bro. Mario Kart Wii is a masterpiece.


That's a really good game yup, but it has its flaws, like the horrible controls, some bland retro tracks, and the overbugged races. I'm tired of seeing insane shortcuts in TAS.

That's honestly the most interesting thing about the game though, gameplay wise. The shortcuts done are signs of a dedicated community who want to push a game to its limits, and if stuff like this is possible, then I'm all for it. But take those away, and what's left? The gameplay is far less appealing to me, and it's a game left carried by its admittedly well-aged visuals and good tracks. But I'm someone who prefers the actual meat of a game, not the plate, and I see a dull game with poor balancing and jank everywhere

tbh when you see the 6848595th shortcut you be like : idc. Also yeah the Community is dedicated but most of that is due to CTGP r

Nah, not really, I always enjoy seeing new discoveries on tracks. And yeah I can't exactly deny that the game's only alive because of CTGP, but that furthers my point. What would've happened if it didn't exist? The game wouldn't be as overrated as it is now

Wii is overrated ? Nah. Ds is overrated, mk64 is overrated and FNF is overrated

Sir, you said yourself that Wii had many problems and the majority of the community sees it as this perfect game. How is that NOT overrated?
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InfiMK wrote:
Kraze wrote:
InfiMK wrote:
Lely5B wrote:
InfiMK wrote:
Lely5B wrote:
Nope2008 wrote:
No way, bro. Mario Kart Wii is a masterpiece.


That's a really good game yup, but it has its flaws, like the horrible controls, some bland retro tracks, and the overbugged races. I'm tired of seeing insane shortcuts in TAS.

That's honestly the most interesting thing about the game though, gameplay wise. The shortcuts done are signs of a dedicated community who want to push a game to its limits, and if stuff like this is possible, then I'm all for it. But take those away, and what's left? The gameplay is far less appealing to me, and it's a game left carried by its admittedly well-aged visuals and good tracks. But I'm someone who prefers the actual meat of a game, not the plate, and I see a dull game with poor balancing and jank everywhere

tbh when you see the 6848595th shortcut you be like : idc. Also yeah the Community is dedicated but most of that is due to CTGP r

Nah, not really, I always enjoy seeing new discoveries on tracks. And yeah I can't exactly deny that the game's only alive because of CTGP, but that furthers my point. What would've happened if it didn't exist? The game wouldn't be as overrated as it is now

The game still sold 39 million copies, so yes;)

In any case, there's CTGP for MK7 & MK8. CTGP isn't just a MKW thing, so that can't be the WHOLE reason. I always see people mention CTGPR when CTGP7 and CTGPU exist and are doing pretty well.

The only thing about CTGPR is that the hacking makes a crazy game even crazier. the whole point of MKW was to "flip" the series from a pattern that was becoming a little stale. The overratedness is just from the fact that it's a Wii game, and a super popular one too. A ton of people bought a Wii and played Wii Sports. It stands to reason that atleast for 10-20 more years after Wii Sports that a lot of people grabbed the latest Wii game. It's not necesarily a bad game either. Every Mario Kart game has it's problems. The console was to bring casual, everyday people into videogames, and to forget about the "Dolphin" crowd, who shouldn't complain when Nintendo's newest games aren't to their liking. (You guys literally have one of the best lineups in Nintendo's history, stop whining:(, let us have new stuff:(:()

Highest sales =/= the best game, look at MK8DX. The point I was making is that the game is very much kept alive by CTGP-R, while the same isn't exactly said for MK7 and 8. They're successful yes, but the game's longevity doesn't revolve around it.

As for the pattern becoming stale, I'm a firm believer of "don't fix what isn't broken", and even then I don't believe that the MK formula was getting stale. Each game was different in its own right and not a blatant copy-paste of the last one. Especially with the more recent titles, such as Double Dash having the mechanic of two characters and being able to switch out items at will, and DS expanding upon the character + kart concept.
Lastly, no. It's not a bad game, for sure. But it's still one of the weaker titles in my opinion, if we're talking BASE GAME. While I'll admit I'm now seeing a lot of the MKs through a competitive lens, it's still a valid point to be made.

I wasn't saying stale as in the games were the same, they're definitely not. I just meant that the 8 racers and small numbers of vehicles to choose from, among other things, was keeping the series back, although it looks like the DS games were initially going to be bigger than they ended up being.
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe technically is the best game glitch/shortcut wise from Nintendo's point of view, whether you like it or not. It certainly has more bulk to it than any other game in the series. As for sales not equating to the best game, I'm saying that MKW was more influential to the series' future than the older games. Had it not sold so well, we probably wouldn't have had as much effort put into the newer games.
Mechanics wise, bikes and stunts have stuck around more than other mechanics like the ones from DD. While the game is janky and wonky, it would be easier for someone NEW to get into than MKDS.
As for CTGP, CTGPR is just an acknowledgement that the game is fun to a lot of people and they enjoy making it more "fun". You could also say that the old games are kept alive by Time Trials. The difference is that the old games aren't really going to change/attract new players(unless they really like that game), whereas as Wii is a pick-up-&-play sort of game.
I think Wii just has a lot of negativity surrounding it because it was "poorly balanced". I for one prefer for Mario Kart to be chaotic: it's a party racing game, just like how Smash is a party fighting game.
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InfiMK wrote:
Lely5B wrote:
InfiMK wrote:
Lely5B wrote:
InfiMK wrote:
Lely5B wrote:
Nope2008 wrote:
No way, bro. Mario Kart Wii is a masterpiece.


That's a really good game yup, but it has its flaws, like the horrible controls, some bland retro tracks, and the overbugged races. I'm tired of seeing insane shortcuts in TAS.

That's honestly the most interesting thing about the game though, gameplay wise. The shortcuts done are signs of a dedicated community who want to push a game to its limits, and if stuff like this is possible, then I'm all for it. But take those away, and what's left? The gameplay is far less appealing to me, and it's a game left carried by its admittedly well-aged visuals and good tracks. But I'm someone who prefers the actual meat of a game, not the plate, and I see a dull game with poor balancing and jank everywhere

tbh when you see the 6848595th shortcut you be like : idc. Also yeah the Community is dedicated but most of that is due to CTGP r

Nah, not really, I always enjoy seeing new discoveries on tracks. And yeah I can't exactly deny that the game's only alive because of CTGP, but that furthers my point. What would've happened if it didn't exist? The game wouldn't be as overrated as it is now

Wii is overrated ? Nah. Ds is overrated, mk64 is overrated and FNF is overrated

Sir, you said yourself that Wii had many problems and the majority of the community sees it as this perfect game. How is that NOT overrated?

Yeah but Wii has its flaws, and I still think that's an enjoyable game. Overrated doesn't mean loved. It means too loved for something that he isn't. MKDS is 100k worse than Wii and he receive the equal love that we give to Wii, or even more  While Wii can receive some hate. Plus Wii deserve the love
he receive as a good game, MKDS receive a lot of love while being one of the worst.
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Lely5B wrote:
InfiMK wrote:
Lely5B wrote:
InfiMK wrote:
Lely5B wrote:
InfiMK wrote:
Lely5B wrote:
Nope2008 wrote:
No way, bro. Mario Kart Wii is a masterpiece.


That's a really good game yup, but it has its flaws, like the horrible controls, some bland retro tracks, and the overbugged races. I'm tired of seeing insane shortcuts in TAS.

That's honestly the most interesting thing about the game though, gameplay wise. The shortcuts done are signs of a dedicated community who want to push a game to its limits, and if stuff like this is possible, then I'm all for it. But take those away, and what's left? The gameplay is far less appealing to me, and it's a game left carried by its admittedly well-aged visuals and good tracks. But I'm someone who prefers the actual meat of a game, not the plate, and I see a dull game with poor balancing and jank everywhere

tbh when you see the 6848595th shortcut you be like : idc. Also yeah the Community is dedicated but most of that is due to CTGP r

Nah, not really, I always enjoy seeing new discoveries on tracks. And yeah I can't exactly deny that the game's only alive because of CTGP, but that furthers my point. What would've happened if it didn't exist? The game wouldn't be as overrated as it is now

Wii is overrated ? Nah. Ds is overrated, mk64 is overrated and FNF is overrated

Sir, you said yourself that Wii had many problems and the majority of the community sees it as this perfect game. How is that NOT overrated?

Yeah but Wii has its flaws, and I still think that's an enjoyable game. Overrated doesn't mean loved. It means too loved for something that he isn't. MKDS is 100k worse than Wii and he receive the equal love that we give to Wii, or even more  While Wii can receive some hate. Plus Wii deserve the love
he receive as a good game, MKDS receive a lot of love while being one of the worst.

I know the meaning of overrated, and I'm not saying Wii doesn't deserve the love, I'm saying it doesn't deserve nearly as much as it gets. It's no perfect game, but many make it out to be. And no, DS is not one of the worst but I will discuss that privately if you so wish, as to not go off-topic.
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Lely5B wrote:
InfiMK wrote:
Lely5B wrote:
InfiMK wrote:
Lely5B wrote:
InfiMK wrote:
Lely5B wrote:
Nope2008 wrote:
No way, bro. Mario Kart Wii is a masterpiece.


That's a really good game yup, but it has its flaws, like the horrible controls, some bland retro tracks, and the overbugged races. I'm tired of seeing insane shortcuts in TAS.

That's honestly the most interesting thing about the game though, gameplay wise. The shortcuts done are signs of a dedicated community who want to push a game to its limits, and if stuff like this is possible, then I'm all for it. But take those away, and what's left? The gameplay is far less appealing to me, and it's a game left carried by its admittedly well-aged visuals and good tracks. But I'm someone who prefers the actual meat of a game, not the plate, and I see a dull game with poor balancing and jank everywhere

tbh when you see the 6848595th shortcut you be like : idc. Also yeah the Community is dedicated but most of that is due to CTGP r

Nah, not really, I always enjoy seeing new discoveries on tracks. And yeah I can't exactly deny that the game's only alive because of CTGP, but that furthers my point. What would've happened if it didn't exist? The game wouldn't be as overrated as it is now

Wii is overrated ? Nah. Ds is overrated, mk64 is overrated and FNF is overrated

Sir, you said yourself that Wii had many problems and the majority of the community sees it as this perfect game. How is that NOT overrated?

Yeah but Wii has its flaws, and I still think that's an enjoyable game. Overrated doesn't mean loved. It means too loved for something that he isn't. MKDS is 100k worse than Wii and he receive the equal love that we give to Wii, or even more  While Wii can receive some hate. Plus Wii deserve the love
he receive as a good game, MKDS receive a lot of love while being one of the worst.


I'm guessing its seen as "perfect", because of the number of glitches in it. I don't know what I'm doing in this conversation, but still, maybe this is why its got tremendous love from people.

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