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Messages 832 - Mario Mario
vs15019 pts ★ Master
battle6206 pts ★ Racer
United States
InfiNate wrote:
LuigiDawg wrote:
From personal experience, I would say Luigi, Pac-Man, and Snake. They're my 3 mains, and Luigi and Pac-Man can do some absolutely crazy combos (especially Pac-Man, I mean just look at this stuff:
Pac-Man's like the physical form of a Wild Card.)
Wario too, I guess. He's pretty good.

Snake's the best of the 3 and he's barely top 10.

Huh, really? I thought Pac-Man was higher.
I guess it's cause he has a high learning curve, and not many people play him at tournaments.
Messages 650 - Mario Mario
vs103609 pts ★ Superstar
battle8607 pts ★ Expert
United Kingdom
LuigiDawg wrote:
InfiNate wrote:
LuigiDawg wrote:
From personal experience, I would say Luigi, Pac-Man, and Snake. They're my 3 mains, and Luigi and Pac-Man can do some absolutely crazy combos (especially Pac-Man, I mean just look at this stuff:
Pac-Man's like the physical form of a Wild Card.)
Wario too, I guess. He's pretty good.

Snake's the best of the 3 and he's barely top 10.

Huh, really? I thought Pac-Man was higher.
I guess it's cause he has a high learning curve, and not many people play him at tournaments.

It's mainly because set-ups are all he's got. Everything else is below average other than recovery.
Messages 832 - Mario Mario
vs15019 pts ★ Master
battle6206 pts ★ Racer
United States
InfiNate wrote:
LuigiDawg wrote:
InfiNate wrote:
LuigiDawg wrote:
From personal experience, I would say Luigi, Pac-Man, and Snake. They're my 3 mains, and Luigi and Pac-Man can do some absolutely crazy combos (especially Pac-Man, I mean just look at this stuff:
Pac-Man's like the physical form of a Wild Card.)
Wario too, I guess. He's pretty good.

Snake's the best of the 3 and he's barely top 10.

Huh, really? I thought Pac-Man was higher.
I guess it's cause he has a high learning curve, and not many people play him at tournaments.

It's mainly because set-ups are all he's got. Everything else is below average other than recovery.

By the way, where is Pac-Man on the tier list? I don't know where to find the official tier list, and I can't check Smash Wiki because it's not on there...for some reason.
Messages 620 - Mario Mario
vs37249 pts ★ Legend
battle17416 pts ★ Master
LuigiDawg wrote:
InfiNate wrote:
LuigiDawg wrote:
InfiNate wrote:
LuigiDawg wrote:
From personal experience, I would say Luigi, Pac-Man, and Snake. They're my 3 mains, and Luigi and Pac-Man can do some absolutely crazy combos (especially Pac-Man, I mean just look at this stuff:
Pac-Man's like the physical form of a Wild Card.)
Wario too, I guess. He's pretty good.

Snake's the best of the 3 and he's barely top 10.

Huh, really? I thought Pac-Man was higher.
I guess it's cause he has a high learning curve, and not many people play him at tournaments.

It's mainly because set-ups are all he's got. Everything else is below average other than recovery.

By the way, where is Pac-Man on the tier list? I don't know where to find the official tier list, and I can't check Smash Wiki because it's not on there...for some reason.


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Messages 832 - Mario Mario
vs15019 pts ★ Master
battle6206 pts ★ Racer
United States
Gliscor01 wrote:
LuigiDawg wrote:
InfiNate wrote:
LuigiDawg wrote:
InfiNate wrote:
[quote=LuigiDawg]From personal experience, I would say Luigi, Pac-Man, and Snake. They're my 3 mains, and Luigi and Pac-Man can do some absolutely crazy combos (especially Pac-Man, I mean just look at this stuff:
Pac-Man's like the physical form of a Wild Card.)
Wario too, I guess. He's pretty good.

Snake's the best of the 3 and he's barely top 10.

Huh, really? I thought Pac-Man was higher.
I guess it's cause he has a high learning curve, and not many people play him at tournaments.

It's mainly because set-ups are all he's got. Everything else is below average other than recovery.

By the way, where is Pac-Man on the tier list? I don't know where to find the official tier list, and I can't check Smash Wiki because it's not on there...for some reason.


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Messages 650 - Mario Mario
vs103609 pts ★ Superstar
battle8607 pts ★ Expert
United Kingdom
That's not the official one. I'll go get it.
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Messages 249 - Toad Toad
vs11227 pts ★ Champion
battle4959 pts ★ Budding pilot
United States
Maro wrote:
My opinion, but I main Kirby(don't mess with my pink marshmallow, he is not F tier) and Luigi, so I would say them. But from a competitive standpoint, Min Min, Ganondorf, and DK.

It's fine i like kirby too
Messages 620 - Mario Mario
vs37249 pts ★ Legend
battle17416 pts ★ Master
Maro wrote:
My opinion, but I main Kirby(don't mess with my pink marshmallow, he is not F tier) and Luigi, so I would say them. But from a competitive standpoint, Min Min, Ganondorf, and DK.

It's fine i like kirby too



In this topic we are not talking about "which is my favorite character" but about "which is OBJECTIVELY the best character"
Messages 309 - Peach Peach
vs21336 pts ★ Legend
battle6430 pts ★ Racer
United States
Gliscor01 wrote:
Maro wrote:
My opinion, but I main Kirby(don't mess with my pink marshmallow, he is not F tier) and Luigi, so I would say them. But from a competitive standpoint, Min Min, Ganondorf, and DK.

It's fine i like kirby too



In this topic we are not talking about "which is my favorite character" but about "which is OBJECTIVELY the best character"

I mean I really think Kirby is great, if you get really good with him, didn't try to make it off-topic.
Messages 650 - Mario Mario
vs103609 pts ★ Superstar
battle8607 pts ★ Expert
United Kingdom
Okay so I decided to go find a tier list for the 8.1.0 patch, but I only found one and it puts top 5 as Pikachu, Joker, Palutena, Shulk and Peach/Daisy in that order. There you go.
Messages 3332 - King Mario King Mario
vs66396 pts ★ Titan
battle13296 pts ★ Champion
Japan
Gliscor01 wrote:
LuigiDawg wrote:
InfiNate wrote:
LuigiDawg wrote:
InfiNate wrote:
[quote=LuigiDawg]From personal experience, I would say Luigi, Pac-Man, and Snake. They're my 3 mains, and Luigi and Pac-Man can do some absolutely crazy combos (especially Pac-Man, I mean just look at this stuff:
Pac-Man's like the physical form of a Wild Card.)
Wario too, I guess. He's pretty good.

Snake's the best of the 3 and he's barely top 10.

Huh, really? I thought Pac-Man was higher.
I guess it's cause he has a high learning curve, and not many people play him at tournaments.

It's mainly because set-ups are all he's got. Everything else is below average other than recovery.

By the way, where is Pac-Man on the tier list? I don't know where to find the official tier list, and I can't check Smash Wiki because it's not on there...for some reason.


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Messages 620 - Mario Mario
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InfiNate wrote:
Okay so I decided to go find a tier list for the 8.1.0 patch, but I only found one and it puts top 5 as Pikachu, Joker, Palutena, Shulk and Peach/Daisy in that order. There you go.


PEACH,
sincerely you should really see the crazy things that can be done with this character at high level.
Messages 650 - Mario Mario
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battle8607 pts ★ Expert
United Kingdom
Gliscor01 wrote:
InfiNate wrote:
Okay so I decided to go find a tier list for the 8.1.0 patch, but I only found one and it puts top 5 as Pikachu, Joker, Palutena, Shulk and Peach/Daisy in that order. There you go.


PEACH,
sincerely you should really see the crazy things that can be done with this character at high level.

I know, that's why she's top 5
Messages 832 - Mario Mario
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battle6206 pts ★ Racer
United States
InfiNate wrote:
Okay so I decided to go find a tier list for the 8.1.0 patch, but I only found one and it puts top 5 as Pikachu, Joker, Palutena, Shulk and Peach/Daisy in that order. There you go.

OK, but that doesn't answer my original question. Where is Pac-Man on that tier list?
Messages 650 - Mario Mario
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United Kingdom
LuigiDawg wrote:
InfiNate wrote:
Okay so I decided to go find a tier list for the 8.1.0 patch, but I only found one and it puts top 5 as Pikachu, Joker, Palutena, Shulk and Peach/Daisy in that order. There you go.

OK, but that doesn't answer my original question. Where is Pac-Man on that tier list?

He got put in high tier, but I don't see why. It's probably because of how widely used he is.
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Gliscor01 wrote:
Maro wrote:
My opinion, but I main Kirby(don't mess with my pink marshmallow, he is not F tier) and Luigi, so I would say them. But from a competitive standpoint, Min Min, Ganondorf, and DK.

It's fine i like kirby too



In this topic we are not talking about "which is my favorite character" but about "which is OBJECTIVELY the best character"

Is there anyway i can edit the topic name?
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