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Messages 3025 - King Mario King Mario
vs49377 pts ★ Titan
battle19672 pts ★ Master
Romania
I know there are lots of noobs who complain about the CPUs being too difficult to beat when it's in reality just a skill issue... However, there is actually one thing in my opinion that needs to be nerfed about them, but just one: their weight.

Having them much heavier than the player doesn't increase the difficulty in any meaningful way, it just makes the game more frustrating and annoying: you can totally play the game perfectly well by drifting RDing and all yet getting unfairly punished by being pushed into the void by one of these ultra-heavy CPUs when you made no mistake and had no way to avoid being pushed.

Also, a group of 100 CPUs is pretty much an impenetrable wall which decreases the challenge possibilities with very large CPU amounts since you depend on the items to go past them.

It should at least be possible to deactivate collisions from the settings in VS mode
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Messages 639 - Mario Mario
vs17119 pts ★ Master
battle5000 pts ★ Novice
United States
Wal68 wrote:
I know there are lots of noobs who complain about the CPUs being too difficult to beat when it's in reality just a skill issue... However, there is actually one thing in my opinion that needs to be nerfed about them, but just one: their weight.

Having them much heavier than the player doesn't increase the difficulty in any meaningful way, it just makes the game more frustrating and annoying: you can totally play the game perfectly well by drifting RDing and all yet getting unfairly punished by being pushed into the void by one of these ultra-heavy CPUs when you made no mistake and had no way to avoid being pushed.

Also, a group of 100 CPUs is pretty much an impenetrable wall which decreases the challenge possibilities with very large CPU amounts since you depend on the items to go past them.

It should at least be possible to deactivate collisions from the settings in VS mode

In the skinny tracks like SNES Rainbow Road I go off the Trick ramps and get pushed off by DK or Bowser and it's just unfair.
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Messages 3025 - King Mario King Mario
vs49377 pts ★ Titan
battle19672 pts ★ Master
Romania
Wal68 wrote:
I know there are lots of noobs who complain about the CPUs being too difficult to beat when it's in reality just a skill issue... However, there is actually one thing in my opinion that needs to be nerfed about them, but just one: their weight.

Having them much heavier than the player doesn't increase the difficulty in any meaningful way, it just makes the game more frustrating and annoying: you can totally play the game perfectly well by drifting RDing and all yet getting unfairly punished by being pushed into the void by one of these ultra-heavy CPUs when you made no mistake and had no way to avoid being pushed.

Also, a group of 100 CPUs is pretty much an impenetrable wall which decreases the challenge possibilities with very large CPU amounts since you depend on the items to go past them.

It should at least be possible to deactivate collisions from the settings in VS mode

In the skinny tracks like SNES Rainbow Road I go off the Trick ramps and get pushed off by DK or Bowser and it's just unfair.
No but like the CPUs clearly have a weight buff that the player deosn't have because I've already got pushed into the void by a Toad CPU while playing as Bowser :s
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Messages 112 - Buzzy Beetle Buzzy Beetle
vs36154 pts ★ Legend
battle8154 pts ★ Expert
United States
Wal68 wrote:
Wal68 wrote:
I know there are lots of noobs who complain about the CPUs being too difficult to beat when it's in reality just a skill issue... However, there is actually one thing in my opinion that needs to be nerfed about them, but just one: their weight.

Having them much heavier than the player doesn't increase the difficulty in any meaningful way, it just makes the game more frustrating and annoying: you can totally play the game perfectly well by drifting RDing and all yet getting unfairly punished by being pushed into the void by one of these ultra-heavy CPUs when you made no mistake and had no way to avoid being pushed.

Also, a group of 100 CPUs is pretty much an impenetrable wall which decreases the challenge possibilities with very large CPU amounts since you depend on the items to go past them.

It should at least be possible to deactivate collisions from the settings in VS mode

In the skinny tracks like SNES Rainbow Road I go off the Trick ramps and get pushed off by DK or Bowser and it's just unfair.
No but like the CPUs clearly have a weight buff that the player deosn't have because I've already got pushed into the void by a Toad CPU while playing as Bowser :s


This happens to me even in online mode. You'll think because every has the 'perfect' stats you thinking that it would be fair but reality, you still get pushed of. So basically, it doesn't matter.
Messages 2979 - King Mario King Mario
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battle5848 pts ★ Novice
Wal68 wrote:
I know there are lots of noobs who complain about the CPUs being too difficult to beat when it's in reality just a skill issue... However, there is actually one thing in my opinion that needs to be nerfed about them, but just one: their weight.

Having them much heavier than the player doesn't increase the difficulty in any meaningful way, it just makes the game more frustrating and annoying: you can totally play the game perfectly well by drifting RDing and all yet getting unfairly punished by being pushed into the void by one of these ultra-heavy CPUs when you made no mistake and had no way to avoid being pushed.

Also, a group of 100 CPUs is pretty much an impenetrable wall which decreases the challenge possibilities with very large CPU amounts since you depend on the items to go past them.

It should at least be possible to deactivate collisions from the settings in VS mode

Please preach Wal. I like giving myself a challenge by racing against plenty of AIs, and it's frustrating as all they do is bully you.
Messages 2457 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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battle10076 pts ★ Champion
United Kingdom
They aren't heavier, that's just being Daisy
Messages 2979 - King Mario King Mario
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battle5848 pts ★ Novice
osc-omb wrote:
They aren't heavier, that's just being Daisy

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Messages 2457 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
vs27192 pts ★ Legend
battle10076 pts ★ Champion
United Kingdom
osc-omb wrote:
They aren't heavier, that's just being Daisy

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NO. WE ARE NOT BRINGING YOUR FETISH INTO THIS.
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Messages 292 - Toadsworth Toadsworth
vs12337 pts ★ Champion
battle5000 pts ★ Novice
Canada
osc-omb wrote:
osc-omb wrote:
They aren't heavier, that's just being Daisy

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NO. WE ARE NOT BRINGING YOUR FETISH INTO THIS.

i mean wal did say he got pushed off using bowser by a toad
Messages 2979 - King Mario King Mario
vs21645 pts ★ Legend
battle5848 pts ★ Novice
osc-omb wrote:
osc-omb wrote:
They aren't heavier, that's just being Daisy

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NO. WE ARE NOT BRINGING YOUR FETISH INTO THIS.

My fetish? LMAOOOOOOO. You can think that i you want, this is just funny though
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Messages 10874 - King Mario King Mario
vs35265 pts ★ Legend
battle6102 pts ★ Racer
France
I agree, I literally got bumped out of the freaking racetrack by Toadette
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Messages 1 - Goomba Goomba
vs5000 pts ★ Novice
battle5000 pts ★ Novice
United Arab Emirates
I agree, I literally got bumped out of the freaking racetrack by Toadette  Drift Boss

Me too!
Messages 571 - Mario Mario
vs50051 pts ★ Titan
battle12740 pts ★ Champion
United Kingdom
You guys can avoid being hit by driving around them *[

- They don't take up much space
- You should know what you're doing by adding 100 CPUs in the first place :p
Messages 1918 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
vs11652 pts ★ Champion
battle6099 pts ★ Racer
Ireland
PixelMK wrote:
You guys can avoid being hit by driving around them *[

- They don't take up much space
- You should know what you're doing by adding 100 CPUs in the first place :p

It can still be difficult to avoid them with rubber banding and all that shit tbh
Messages 571 - Mario Mario
vs50051 pts ★ Titan
battle12740 pts ★ Champion
United Kingdom
PixelMK wrote:
You guys can avoid being hit by driving around them *[

- They don't take up much space
- You should know what you're doing by adding 100 CPUs in the first place :p

It can still be difficult to avoid them with rubber banding and all that shit tbh

Then go faster!!! toad
Messages 10874 - King Mario King Mario
vs35265 pts ★ Legend
battle6102 pts ★ Racer
France
PixelMK wrote:
PixelMK wrote:
You guys can avoid being hit by driving around them *[

- They don't take up much space
- You should know what you're doing by adding 100 CPUs in the first place :p

It can still be difficult to avoid them with rubber banding and all that shit tbh

Then go faster!!! toad

I definitively understand your point but the problem might be further than a simple skill issue when many people who responded actually agree. Personnally it's not my biggest issue but I still am able to kinda agree with both sides to be fair, but that is just my opinion
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Messages 2979 - King Mario King Mario
vs21645 pts ★ Legend
battle5848 pts ★ Novice
PixelMK wrote:
PixelMK wrote:
You guys can avoid being hit by driving around them *[

- They don't take up much space
- You should know what you're doing by adding 100 CPUs in the first place :p

It can still be difficult to avoid them with rubber banding and all that shit tbh

Then go faster!!! toad

This is literally saying the same thing as "Oh you're poor? Just get money."
Messages 2457 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
vs27192 pts ★ Legend
battle10076 pts ★ Champion
United Kingdom
PixelMK wrote:
PixelMK wrote:
You guys can avoid being hit by driving around them *[

- They don't take up much space
- You should know what you're doing by adding 100 CPUs in the first place :p

It can still be difficult to avoid them with rubber banding and all that shit tbh

Then go faster!!! toad

This is literally saying the same thing as "Oh you're poor? Just get money."

Except it's possible
Messages 2979 - King Mario King Mario
vs21645 pts ★ Legend
battle5848 pts ★ Novice
osc-omb wrote:
PixelMK wrote:
PixelMK wrote:
You guys can avoid being hit by driving around them *[

- They don't take up much space
- You should know what you're doing by adding 100 CPUs in the first place :p

It can still be difficult to avoid them with rubber banding and all that shit tbh

Then go faster!!! toad

This is literally saying the same thing as "Oh you're poor? Just get money."

Except it's possible

But what if you went up to someone in a wheelchair who got bullied and said "You get bullied? Just stand up for yourself" (Ima get warned for that)
Messages 10874 - King Mario King Mario
vs35265 pts ★ Legend
battle6102 pts ★ Racer
France
Nah I agree with Chaz on this one, even if I definitively understand what you guys are trying to say

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