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Open Letter to CPU Difficulty Deniers

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Messages 61 - Boo Boo
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Lingistics wrote:
(walks in)
what the dogs doin?

Snoop dog?
I dont understand wtf?

I think he wants to participate but doesn't know what to add, so resorts to random unfunny memes

um, hello? it's one of the memes of the decade
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Messages 38 - Koopa Koopa
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Lingistics wrote:
(walks in)
what the dogs doin?

Snoop dog?
I dont understand wtf?

I think he wants to participate but doesn't know what to add, so resorts to random unfunny memes

um, hello? it's one of the memes of the decade

Ok, resorts to just unfunny memes.
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Lingistics wrote:
(walks in)
what the dogs doin?

Snoop dog?
I dont understand wtf?

I think he wants to participate but doesn't know what to add, so resorts to random unfunny memes

um, hello? it's one of the memes of the decade

Doesn't make it not outdated.
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Messages 11441 - King Mario King Mario
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The people painting long and structured messages as hate because they looked at the one sentence criticizing them is genuinely funny to me. That was Osc's biggest message, well structured and everything, I must offer my congratulations as the Ultimate Essay Writer (DR role found !!11!11!1!1!1). Take it or leave it but stop complaining.
"Skill issue" is rude but sometimes it's the truth. Skill issue is just a way to say "the problem comes from you, and you must improve to fix it" in a much ruder way, but sometimes I interepret it as the second sentence to feel better about it and just suck it up lol
Messages 38 - Koopa Koopa
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Invu wrote:
The people painting long and structured messages as hate because they looked at the one sentence criticizing them is genuinely funny to me. That was Osc's biggest message, well structured and everything, I must offer my congratulations as the Ultimate Essay Writer (DR role found !!11!11!1!1!1). Take it or leave it but stop complaining.
"Skill issue" is rude but sometimes it's the truth. Skill issue is just a way to say "the problem comes from you, and you must improve to fix it" in a much ruder way, but sometimes I interepret it as the second sentence to feel better about it and just suck it up lol

Whoa, that was tigercheese, not me. I wasn't being rude, I don't think.
Messages 11441 - King Mario King Mario
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Lingistics wrote:
Invu wrote:
The people painting long and structured messages as hate because they looked at the one sentence criticizing them is genuinely funny to me. That was Osc's biggest message, well structured and everything, I must offer my congratulations as the Ultimate Essay Writer (DR role found !!11!11!1!1!1). Take it or leave it but stop complaining.
"Skill issue" is rude but sometimes it's the truth. Skill issue is just a way to say "the problem comes from you, and you must improve to fix it" in a much ruder way, but sometimes I interepret it as the second sentence to feel better about it and just suck it up lol

Whoa, that was tigercheese, not me. I wasn't being rude, I don't think.

Not talking abt you just expressing two different points at once
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Messages 2487 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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Invu wrote:
The people painting long and structured messages as hate because they looked at the one sentence criticizing them is genuinely funny to me. That was Osc's biggest message, well structured and everything, I must offer my congratulations as the Ultimate Essay Writer (DR role found !!11!11!1!1!1). Take it or leave it but stop complaining.
"Skill issue" is rude but sometimes it's the truth. Skill issue is just a way to say "the problem comes from you, and you must improve to fix it" in a much ruder way, but sometimes I interepret it as the second sentence to feel better about it and just suck it up lol

I know, sometimes I don't shitpost
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Messages 61 - Boo Boo
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Lingistics wrote:
(walks in)
what the dogs doin?

Snoop dog?
I dont understand wtf?

I think he wants to participate but doesn't know what to add, so resorts to random unfunny memes

um, hello? it's one of the memes of the decade

Doesn't make it not outdated.

does bro really have to invade our conversation? also lets stop talking about this
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Messages 2487 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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Lingistics wrote:
(walks in)
what the dogs doin?

Snoop dog?
I dont understand wtf?

I think he wants to participate but doesn't know what to add, so resorts to random unfunny memes

um, hello? it's one of the memes of the decade

Doesn't make it not outdated.

does bro really have to invade our conversation? also lets stop talking about this

You're the one who posted something completely irrelevant and useless 💀☠👽
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Messages 1301 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
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Cosmo739 wrote:
I do think there should be a lower difficulty. I struggle a lot with the CPUs, and I've been playing the game for quite a while. I can see where the deniers are coming from, but to me, the point of the GPs is not only to get the characters, but also to get better at the game, and practice for playing online. I think a lower difficulty would be useful, since it could help newer players.


Still Trying to Get Link.
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Also, I was able to get some of the Characters by Doing CM Grand Prix as a Shortcut.
So, Yeah. I think the CPU Needs a Setting.
Messages 3135 - King Mario King Mario
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Lingistics wrote:
(walks in)
what the dogs doin?

Snoop dog?
I dont understand wtf?

I think he wants to participate but doesn't know what to add, so resorts to random unfunny memes

um, hello? it's one of the memes of the decade

Doesn't make it not outdated.

does bro really have to invade our conversation? also lets stop talking about this

It's an online forum. I can interrupt whenever. You hae a problem with it, don't say it.
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Messages 61 - Boo Boo
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screw this, i'm outta here
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Lingistics wrote:
osc-omb wrote:
-Max- wrote:
osc-omb wrote:
Lingistics wrote:
Hey everyone,

I just wanted to say something about people constantly denying the CPU's difficulties.

I notice there being a constant of people just saying that it's a skill issue when a player complains. It's true, but that was known every time that the player asks. It's not about the players not being good and trying to bring others down, it's about there needing to be more accessible difficulty options for new and old players alike.

Another note I had was that the fact that people complain about the difficulty so frequently should  be an indicator that there's a problem. I think that it's hindering the new players' experiences more than veterans see, just since they complain so often.

This doesn't mean that the entire game has to cater to the new players, but I also don't think that it should cater to great ones either.

How about there being 2 difficulties, Easy and Regular? And only being able to earn cups and new characters when on Regular difficulty? (Although, unlocking characters doesn't mean much when the cups that give it to you for free exist.)

Anyway, I just feel like the overall experience could be better if
1. New players weren't shoved off for being not good.
2. It was more accessible for new players by adding an easy mode with less rewards.

Thanks!

I'm going to respond to each of these paragraphs individually. Keep in mind, I've been on this site for nearly 2 and a half years, made 192 tracks to my main project, and got fairly good at the game. So I am "experienced" with the game. I also noticed you've been here for about a month, which means you probably don't have the hang of the game just yet?

As for my main point, which I'll start on this paragraph.
So I'll admit it. Calling it a skill issue? Is a pretty rude way of putting it, but it's quite honestly right. If you're gonna beat GP, you're gonna need to get better. Adding an easier difficulty would be cheesing it. And if you want to get better? Then just ask someone better that knows RD or good snaking. They can probably help you. Even me, though, I'm not too great in the grand scheme of things (mainly in item use though which is a lot less of an issue against CPUs as opposed to humans).

You're correct, it does happen frequently. But as you literally say, it's pretty much always from new players. New players, that don't really know what they're getting into. This game has a learning curve. It's essentially the same situation as MKDS snaking; you're gonna need to learn RD, else you don't really stand a chance unless your name is Andy

The thing here is that it isn't a case of failing to cater to new players, it's just them being, well, new. This is why I've been thinking about making a general "Getting into MKPC" tutorial, because it could help them to become better.

If you're going to add these difficulties (and, by the way, the second stage of difficulty is called Medium. Have you never played VS??????) then I don't see a reason why Extreme and Impossible wouldn't be added. Because, for many experienced players, Difficult is too easy. Even Extreme too, but that has tripped me up a few times. However there's still no point. You'd only be getting anything from Difficult. I've also not yet mentioned that you don't need to complete the main game's GP mode. All you'll get is bragging rights, since there's no point to getting all the characters - there's already copies of them made as custom ones, AND you never want to be playing as a character without Daisy's stats.

My point pretty much is:
You don't need to play GP unless it's on a multicup for a challenge. If you're still getting the hang of the game, play Easy or Medium in VS. Get help from better players.

oh boy here comes osc-omb to hate on everyone watch out people

Off-topic, it's not about hatred but about difficulty level 8)
Mores seriously this is literally his most developed and constructed message in a long time, presenting something right imo, and you say it's hateful towards everyone, I just can't

He just hates me because I told him to not use base game music


Yeah I saw that lol

Me too. SKILL ISSUE
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screw this, i'm outta here

Bro really deleted his whole account off of this
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Messages 4859 - King Mario King Mario
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all of this because osc made a well structured and constructive post, I think we know that the forum is in a bad state now, you don't need to make it even worse
Messages 11441 - King Mario King Mario
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It's an online forum so nobody is invading conversations here 💀 the fact that this is turning into an argument
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Messages 1203 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
Let's stop talking about the fact that an argument started because of osc's great post bc snowy deleted their account for some reason so let's move on and use the topic how it's supposed to be used
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