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Can someone help me with special cup ds? (mkpc's grand prix mode)

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Messages 22 - Koopa Koopa
vs10863 pts ★ Champion
battle5184 pts ★ Novice
Brazil
i've been having a lot of trouble with this cup due to certain cpu's throwing red shells backwards to hit me and blue shells hitting me (in second place) instead of the person in first place.

also the cpus are being faster than a mushroom without using items and in general driving me crazy.

especially in bowser castle ds and rainbow road ds.

(WHY AND HOW ARE THE CPUS DOING PERFECT TURNS AND GOING THROUGH THAT SINGLE SHORTCUT WITHOUT ITEMS)
Messages 267 - Toadsworth Toadsworth
vs20022 pts ★ Legend
battle5635 pts ★ Novice
Philippines
AquaVay wrote:
i've been having a lot of trouble with this cup due to certain cpu's throwing red shells backwards to hit me and blue shells hitting me (in second place) instead of the person in first place.

also the cpus are being faster than a mushroom without using items and in general driving me crazy.

especially in bowser castle ds and rainbow road ds.

(WHY AND HOW ARE THE CPUS DOING PERFECT TURNS AND GOING THROUGH THAT SINGLE SHORTCUT WITHOUT ITEMS)

1. it's because in Mario kart, blue shells target 1st place, second place, and third place.
2. welp, you can't change that. you need to improve at MKPC grand prix to unlock characters, you really need to master it to get all characters, you can also unlock a few other characters by winning custom track cups.
3. as i said, you really need to master it. this is cpus they don't drift so don't go mega mad mode, it's harder if you race with people in online race that drift. when cpus get an item, they use it instantly when you race in grand prix and vs mode and that is what makes it hard.
Messages 22 - Koopa Koopa
vs10863 pts ★ Champion
battle5184 pts ★ Novice
Brazil
lorriee wrote:
cpus they don't drift so don't go mega mad mode, it's harder if you race with people in online race that drift. when cpus get an item, they use it instantly when you race in grand prix and vs mode and that is what makes it hard.


it's kinda hard for me to consistently drift... in bowser castle and rainbow road ds. with the fact that the cpus rubberband and turn perfectly making them have 0 problems in rainbow road... and please don't even let me start with bowser castle.

also cpus hold red shells a bit before trowing them... AND THEY WILL THROW THAT RED SHELL AT YOU, BEHIND THEM, INSTEAD OF THE PERSON AHEAD OF THEM.

(note: blue shells should ONLY HIT who is in first place)

(note 2: i kinda erased a bit of what i was quoting)
Messages 650 - Mario Mario
vs103609 pts ★ Superstar
battle8607 pts ★ Expert
United Kingdom
AquaVay wrote:
i've been having a lot of trouble with this cup due to certain cpu's throwing red shells backwards to hit me and blue shells hitting me (in second place) instead of the person in first place.

also the cpus are being faster than a mushroom without using items and in general driving me crazy.

especially in bowser castle ds and rainbow road ds.

(WHY AND HOW ARE THE CPUS DOING PERFECT TURNS AND GOING THROUGH THAT SINGLE SHORTCUT WITHOUT ITEMS)

Okay, a few things here:
1. Blue shells will go after whoever was first when they reach a certain distance between them and the driver, so you can't simply drop into 2nd when the shell is nearly here.
2. No, they do not go faster than a mushroom but definitely faster than they should because of rubberbanding. Item smuggling helps a ton against them.
3. It's absolutely possible to take the bowser's castle shortcut without a mushroom. I only have experience of doing this as Daisy but you need to be on the cylinder at a 30 degree angle (may differ for other characters depending on speed) and you can stay on there no problem.
Messages 11441 - King Mario King Mario
vs35065 pts ★ Legend
battle6102 pts ★ Racer
France
AquaVay wrote:
i've been having a lot of trouble with this cup due to certain cpu's throwing red shells backwards to hit me and blue shells hitting me (in second place) instead of the person in first place.

also the cpus are being faster than a mushroom without using items and in general driving me crazy.

especially in bowser castle ds and rainbow road ds.

(WHY AND HOW ARE THE CPUS DOING PERFECT TURNS AND GOING THROUGH THAT SINGLE SHORTCUT WITHOUT ITEMS)


Yeah that's a problem. If you get hit by a stupid banana, you get last. And with the shell, that works. WHy you lose all these places instead of just one or two places like in REAL MK GAMES ?
Messages 267 - Toadsworth Toadsworth
vs20022 pts ★ Legend
battle5635 pts ★ Novice
Philippines
AquaVay wrote:
i've been having a lot of trouble with this cup due to certain cpu's throwing red shells backwards to hit me and blue shells hitting me (in second place) instead of the person in first place.

also the cpus are being faster than a mushroom without using items and in general driving me crazy.

especially in bowser castle ds and rainbow road ds.

(WHY AND HOW ARE THE CPUS DOING PERFECT TURNS AND GOING THROUGH THAT SINGLE SHORTCUT WITHOUT ITEMS)


Yeah that's a problem. If you get hit by a stupid banana, you get last. And with the shell, that works. WHy you lose all these places instead of just one or two places like in REAL MK GAMES ?

this is a website Lely, there can be problems and you really need to beat it.
Messages 11441 - King Mario King Mario
vs35065 pts ★ Legend
battle6102 pts ★ Racer
France
lorriee wrote:
AquaVay wrote:
i've been having a lot of trouble with this cup due to certain cpu's throwing red shells backwards to hit me and blue shells hitting me (in second place) instead of the person in first place.

also the cpus are being faster than a mushroom without using items and in general driving me crazy.

especially in bowser castle ds and rainbow road ds.

(WHY AND HOW ARE THE CPUS DOING PERFECT TURNS AND GOING THROUGH THAT SINGLE SHORTCUT WITHOUT ITEMS)


Yeah that's a problem. If you get hit by a stupid banana, you get last. And with the shell, that works. WHy you lose all these places instead of just one or two places like in REAL MK GAMES ?

this is a website Lely, there can be problems and you really need to beat it.

I know but sometimes mkpc must dix thé problems
Messages 267 - Toadsworth Toadsworth
vs20022 pts ★ Legend
battle5635 pts ★ Novice
Philippines
lorriee wrote:
AquaVay wrote:
i've been having a lot of trouble with this cup due to certain cpu's throwing red shells backwards to hit me and blue shells hitting me (in second place) instead of the person in first place.

also the cpus are being faster than a mushroom without using items and in general driving me crazy.

especially in bowser castle ds and rainbow road ds.

(WHY AND HOW ARE THE CPUS DOING PERFECT TURNS AND GOING THROUGH THAT SINGLE SHORTCUT WITHOUT ITEMS)


Yeah that's a problem. If you get hit by a stupid banana, you get last. And with the shell, that works. WHy you lose all these places instead of just one or two places like in REAL MK GAMES ?

this is a website Lely, there can be problems and you really need to beat it.

I know but sometimes mkpc must dix thé problems

they do need to make more updates
like
online mode
Messages 64 - Boo Boo
vs4998 pts ★ Budding pilot
battle5000 pts ★ Novice
Portugal
Before I start: First, I tried a GP to see if I could catch up, but no, now I regret playing the GP Mode and, instead opt for both TT and VS modes.
I am going to explain this:

Why are the NPCs so hard and annoying to beat in MKPC (GP Mode)?

Firstly, when you enter this mode, they are automatically put on 150cc, difficult mode and aggressive items, so they gain speed if you are far off of them (or even attempt to do so) With this serious “rubberbanding” problem, any wrong move that the player makes or if the player gets hit, this spells last place. They are also put on a specific road that cancels the effect if they go off-road or run through “special” roads.

Are the NPCs on Grand Prix fair?

Like the people that are complaining about this, I doubt that it is unfair too, but there is a reason for this (especially for then-experienced players that are actually struggling with the new MKPC engine update) That means that a strict difficulty level is also effective, if not being as one of the most barbaric and cruelest methods for players to improve.

What can you do to improve yourself?

The first method is where you stay at low ranks for the majority of the race to consistently receive stronger items (also known as sandbagging) As a result, the “rubberbanding” effect only affects you if you are in 1st place, so only catch up in the end.
The second method is taking advantage of their “fatal” flaws. As they don’t drift at all, meaning they will remain mostly of their same speed the entire race. If you can get enough MTs in and out. But time for every pro players’ competitive character: Daisy and her stats. She can charge MTs quickly (also pegged to the handling stat). Her maximum handling can especially make her and any characters related to her stats to be a safe target from drifting through tracks and avoiding obstacles. You should get used to play as her and every single track you’ll find could be at least somehow easier.

I hope this message helps for you guys! :) (This is one of the first times leaving a message on MKPC and I am actually Portuguese and a minor.)
Messages 2860 - King Mario King Mario
vs33419 pts ★ Legend
battle9550 pts ★ Expert
France
MiguelMKPC wrote:
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Before I start: First, I tried a GP to see if I could catch up, but no, now I regret playing the GP Mode and, instead opt for both TT and VS modes.
I am going to explain this:

Why are the NPCs so hard and annoying to beat in MKPC (GP Mode)?

Firstly, when you enter this mode, they are automatically put on 150cc, difficult mode and aggressive items, so they gain speed if you are far off of them (or even attempt to do so) With this serious “rubberbanding” problem, any wrong move that the player makes or if the player gets hit, this spells last place. They are also put on a specific road that cancels the effect if they go off-road or run through “special” roads.

Are the NPCs on Grand Prix fair?

Like the people that are complaining about this, I doubt that it is unfair too, but there is a reason for this (especially for then-experienced players that are actually struggling with the new MKPC engine update) That means that a strict difficulty level is also effective, if not being as one of the most barbaric and cruelest methods for players to improve.

What can you do to improve yourself?

The first method is where you stay at low ranks for the majority of the race to consistently receive stronger items (also known as sandbagging) As a result, the “rubberbanding” effect only affects you if you are in 1st place, so only catch up in the end.
The second method is taking advantage of their “fatal” flaws. As they don’t drift at all, meaning they will remain mostly of their same speed the entire race. If you can get enough MTs in and out. But time for every pro players’ competitive character: Daisy and her stats. She can charge MTs quickly (also pegged to the handling stat). Her maximum handling can especially make her and any characters related to her stats to be a safe target from drifting through tracks and avoiding obstacles. You should get used to play as her and every single track you’ll find could be at least somehow easier.

I hope this message helps for you guys! :) (This is one of the first times leaving a message on MKPC and I am actually Portuguese and a minor.)



As a veteran (playing since 2016) let me explain to you:

Why are the NPCs so hard and annoying to beat in MKPC (GP Mode)?

It is because bots can't drift. Once you mastered the drift, you are basically way faster than bots on any map. Also, it is to make a better challenge to complete the solo mode.

To keep up with the fact they have less capacities than an human player, they have an upgrade in speed and maniability. Grand Prix mode unlike VS Race is basically the true race mode so the difficulty is set to hard because this is the mode where you have trophies, where you unlock your first characters.

What can you do to improve yourself?

1) Pick Daisy or Birdo. Train in Time Trial to master the drift on the tracks you want to do the GP. Daisy and Birdo can basically drift in straight lines, which is an heavy bonus on other characters. Once you feel ready, hit the GP button.
Messages 64 - Boo Boo
vs4998 pts ★ Budding pilot
battle5000 pts ★ Novice
Portugal
@Ryubix; Also, I am a minor and a student (playing MKPC only since last year) May I understand this?
Look, in terms of racing, it’s not like that I don’t know how to control my kart just because I am on mobile.
But when it comes to GP mode, the problem here is the NPCs being set at difficult mode and especially at 150cc. While this is not my fault, I am improvising to sticking better to VS and TT modes.
I hope you understand with this.
So, see you later!:)bisou
Messages 2860 - King Mario King Mario
vs33419 pts ★ Legend
battle9550 pts ★ Expert
France
MiguelMKPC wrote:
@Ryubix; Also, I am a minor and a student (playing MKPC only since last year) May I understand this?
Look, in terms of racing, it’s not like that I don’t know how to control my kart just because I am on mobile.
But when it comes to GP mode, the problem here is the NPCs being set at difficult mode and especially at 150cc. While this is not my fault, I am improvising to sticking better to VS and TT modes.
I hope you understand with this.
So, see you later!:)bisou


Mobile and PC versions are not different, except for controls.
Messages 11441 - King Mario King Mario
vs35065 pts ★ Legend
battle6102 pts ★ Racer
France
Ryubix wrote:
MiguelMKPC wrote:
@Ryubix; Also, I am a minor and a student (playing MKPC only since last year) May I understand this?
Look, in terms of racing, it’s not like that I don’t know how to control my kart just because I am on mobile.
But when it comes to GP mode, the problem here is the NPCs being set at difficult mode and especially at 150cc. While this is not my fault, I am improvising to sticking better to VS and TT modes.
I hope you understand with this.
So, see you later!:)bisou


Mobile and PC versions are not different, except for controls.

Except that playing on mobile is really hard because commands sucks...
Messages 2860 - King Mario King Mario
vs33419 pts ★ Legend
battle9550 pts ★ Expert
France
KamiArmy wrote:
Ryubix wrote:
MiguelMKPC wrote:
@Ryubix; Also, I am a minor and a student (playing MKPC only since last year) May I understand this?
Look, in terms of racing, it’s not like that I don’t know how to control my kart just because I am on mobile.
But when it comes to GP mode, the problem here is the NPCs being set at difficult mode and especially at 150cc. While this is not my fault, I am improvising to sticking better to VS and TT modes.
I hope you understand with this.
So, see you later!:)bisou


Mobile and PC versions are not different, except for controls.

Except that playing on mobile is really hard because commands sucks...


You are right. Even among the pro players in the community, only 2 of them are decent on mobile... I think it was Mudky & CuteWolf? I'm not sure...
Messages 64 - Boo Boo
vs4998 pts ★ Budding pilot
battle5000 pts ★ Novice
Portugal
But, @Ryubix, I am also decent at mobile, too.
Messages 45 - Koopa Koopa
vs34301 pts ★ Legend
battle7744 pts ★ Racer
United States
AquaVay wrote:
i've been having a lot of trouble with this cup due to certain cpu's throwing red shells backwards to hit me and blue shells hitting me (in second place) instead of the person in first place.

also the cpus are being faster than a mushroom without using items and in general driving me crazy.

especially in bowser castle ds and rainbow road ds.

(WHY AND HOW ARE THE CPUS DOING PERFECT TURNS AND GOING THROUGH THAT SINGLE SHORTCUT WITHOUT ITEMS)
I thought it was unfair too but just practice the turns and try practicing snaking and you can get 1st on every cup like me!
Messages 11441 - King Mario King Mario
vs35065 pts ★ Legend
battle6102 pts ★ Racer
France
Ryubix wrote:
KamiArmy wrote:
Ryubix wrote:
MiguelMKPC wrote:
@Ryubix; Also, I am a minor and a student (playing MKPC only since last year) May I understand this?
Look, in terms of racing, it’s not like that I don’t know how to control my kart just because I am on mobile.
But when it comes to GP mode, the problem here is the NPCs being set at difficult mode and especially at 150cc. While this is not my fault, I am improvising to sticking better to VS and TT modes.
I hope you understand with this.
So, see you later!:)bisou


Mobile and PC versions are not different, except for controls.

Except that playing on mobile is really hard because commands sucks...


You are right. Even among the pro players in the community, only 2 of them are decent on mobile... I think it was Mudky & CuteWolf? I'm not sure...

Osc-Omb too, I think, and Izucrario, maybe...
Messages 2860 - King Mario King Mario
vs33419 pts ★ Legend
battle9550 pts ★ Expert
France
MiguelMKPC wrote:
But, @Ryubix, I am also decent at mobile, too.


It is to be proved, I have never seen you in competitive 8)

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