Youtube screwing everyone over for the millionth time
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10076 pts ★ ChampionOn 2023-11-19 at 01:55:15
I was uploading a video about an hour ago and I attempted to add a link to something in the description, and youtube didn't allow me, asking for ID verification. I did actually find a workaround: just don't include https:// in the link. Old videos will be the same but the links won't be clickable (the fuck does that do. everyone knows how to copy and paste.) but annoyingly, the links will still be shortened meaning you might have to edit some descriptions.
I can immediately see why this is done - to stop bots or just malicious links in general - and I'm all for it, but why ID verification? Phone verification already exists and I doubt bots will do it. If it's like when I started making videos, you need phone verification to upload videos that are 15+ minutes anyway.
I have done some digging on Reddit and it seems like you don't have to be 18, just 13. Good, because sending a link isn't inappropriate for a child to be doing. But the issue is that the verification can be done in three ways, each having an issue:
Video of your face
Simply requires you to send a 30 second video of you looking at the camera/
Issues: Not everyone is comfotable sharing this, though they have gone out of their way to say that the videos are deleted as soon as you're verified, and they're never shared. Also, I have heard that this barely ever works, and they are REALLY picky about how the video is.
ID
Send a photo of your passport, card, license, etc.
Issues: Very obvious breach of privacy for some people. Also, not all minors have IDs.
Channel History
Keep uploading for a few months and pray to whatever lord you pray to.
Issues: While it is the only one that isn't a breach of privacy, it takes a while and a lot of effort and is incredibly unreliable.
I really just think it's stupid, since the whole point of this is to make sure that you're human. And as I mentioned before, phone verification already does that. Verifying an ID makes sense for age restricted videos (though honestly I feel like if they're deemed inappropriate for 13-17y/o users they just straight up shouldn't be on the site) but not making sure you're human.
Oh, ALSO...
PINNING COMMENTS NEEDS VERIFICATION. This is more stupid than a mentally ill cockroach, because it just has no advantage, unlike blocking sending links. I will say this only once: Pinning a comment is the OP's choice, and all it does is make people see a certain comment. THE OP WOULD NOT PIN A MALICIOUS COMMENT.
As for how this will affect my channel, it probably won't much - unless there's anything else that I haven't found is also blocked. I can use the URL exploit I mentioned above and since this is a small channel it's not hard to find important comments. But that's the thing - I fear for bigger channels where some comments need to be seen and they'll just be left in the swamp of other comments.
Also, since this channel is decently active, I'll hope for the channel history to work out... because I really would rather not resort to showing Google my face.
In summary, Youtube took a good idea - human verification for sending links - and executed it so devastatingly wrong. Hopefully this gets reversed or changed to phone verification, because people are really not going to be happy.
I can immediately see why this is done - to stop bots or just malicious links in general - and I'm all for it, but why ID verification? Phone verification already exists and I doubt bots will do it. If it's like when I started making videos, you need phone verification to upload videos that are 15+ minutes anyway.
I have done some digging on Reddit and it seems like you don't have to be 18, just 13. Good, because sending a link isn't inappropriate for a child to be doing. But the issue is that the verification can be done in three ways, each having an issue:
Video of your face
Simply requires you to send a 30 second video of you looking at the camera/
Issues: Not everyone is comfotable sharing this, though they have gone out of their way to say that the videos are deleted as soon as you're verified, and they're never shared. Also, I have heard that this barely ever works, and they are REALLY picky about how the video is.
ID
Send a photo of your passport, card, license, etc.
Issues: Very obvious breach of privacy for some people. Also, not all minors have IDs.
Channel History
Keep uploading for a few months and pray to whatever lord you pray to.
Issues: While it is the only one that isn't a breach of privacy, it takes a while and a lot of effort and is incredibly unreliable.
I really just think it's stupid, since the whole point of this is to make sure that you're human. And as I mentioned before, phone verification already does that. Verifying an ID makes sense for age restricted videos (though honestly I feel like if they're deemed inappropriate for 13-17y/o users they just straight up shouldn't be on the site) but not making sure you're human.
Oh, ALSO...
PINNING COMMENTS NEEDS VERIFICATION. This is more stupid than a mentally ill cockroach, because it just has no advantage, unlike blocking sending links. I will say this only once: Pinning a comment is the OP's choice, and all it does is make people see a certain comment. THE OP WOULD NOT PIN A MALICIOUS COMMENT.
As for how this will affect my channel, it probably won't much - unless there's anything else that I haven't found is also blocked. I can use the URL exploit I mentioned above and since this is a small channel it's not hard to find important comments. But that's the thing - I fear for bigger channels where some comments need to be seen and they'll just be left in the swamp of other comments.
Also, since this channel is decently active, I'll hope for the channel history to work out... because I really would rather not resort to showing Google my face.
In summary, Youtube took a good idea - human verification for sending links - and executed it so devastatingly wrong. Hopefully this gets reversed or changed to phone verification, because people are really not going to be happy.
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By the way, Youtube links are still fine. Anyway I'm now combing through my videos to fix the URLs
On 2023-11-23 at 05:53:27
I was uploading a video about an hour ago and I attempted to add a link to something in the description, and youtube didn't allow me, asking for ID verification. I did actually find a workaround: just don't include https:// in the link. Old videos will be the same but the links won't be clickable (the fuck does that do. everyone knows how to copy and paste.) but annoyingly, the links will still be shortened meaning you might have to edit some descriptions.
I can immediately see why this is done - to stop bots or just malicious links in general - and I'm all for it, but why ID verification? Phone verification already exists and I doubt bots will do it. If it's like when I started making videos, you need phone verification to upload videos that are 15+ minutes anyway.
I have done some digging on Reddit and it seems like you don't have to be 18, just 13. Good, because sending a link isn't inappropriate for a child to be doing. But the issue is that the verification can be done in three ways, each having an issue:
Video of your face
Simply requires you to send a 30 second video of you looking at the camera/
Issues: Not everyone is comfotable sharing this, though they have gone out of their way to say that the videos are deleted as soon as you're verified, and they're never shared. Also, I have heard that this barely ever works, and they are REALLY picky about how the video is.
ID
Send a photo of your passport, card, license, etc.
Issues: Very obvious breach of privacy for some people. Also, not all minors have IDs.
Channel History
Keep uploading for a few months and pray to whatever lord you pray to.
Issues: While it is the only one that isn't a breach of privacy, it takes a while and a lot of effort and is incredibly unreliable. Are you ready for the adventurous race in house of hazards?
I really just think it's stupid, since the whole point of this is to make sure that you're human. And as I mentioned before, phone verification already does that. Verifying an ID makes sense for age restricted videos (though honestly I feel like if they're deemed inappropriate for 13-17y/o users they just straight up shouldn't be on the site) but not making sure you're human.
Oh, ALSO...
PINNING COMMENTS NEEDS VERIFICATION. This is more stupid than a mentally ill cockroach, because it just has no advantage, unlike blocking sending links. I will say this only once: Pinning a comment is the OP's choice, and all it does is make people see a certain comment. THE OP WOULD NOT PIN A MALICIOUS COMMENT.
As for how this will affect my channel, it probably won't much - unless there's anything else that I haven't found is also blocked. I can use the URL exploit I mentioned above and since this is a small channel it's not hard to find important comments. But that's the thing - I fear for bigger channels where some comments need to be seen and they'll just be left in the swamp of other comments.
Also, since this channel is decently active, I'll hope for the channel history to work out... because I really would rather not resort to showing Google my face.
In summary, Youtube took a good idea - human verification for sending links - and executed it so devastatingly wrong. Hopefully this gets reversed or changed to phone verification, because people are really not going to be happy.
I can immediately see why this is done - to stop bots or just malicious links in general - and I'm all for it, but why ID verification? Phone verification already exists and I doubt bots will do it. If it's like when I started making videos, you need phone verification to upload videos that are 15+ minutes anyway.
I have done some digging on Reddit and it seems like you don't have to be 18, just 13. Good, because sending a link isn't inappropriate for a child to be doing. But the issue is that the verification can be done in three ways, each having an issue:
Video of your face
Simply requires you to send a 30 second video of you looking at the camera/
Issues: Not everyone is comfotable sharing this, though they have gone out of their way to say that the videos are deleted as soon as you're verified, and they're never shared. Also, I have heard that this barely ever works, and they are REALLY picky about how the video is.
ID
Send a photo of your passport, card, license, etc.
Issues: Very obvious breach of privacy for some people. Also, not all minors have IDs.
Channel History
Keep uploading for a few months and pray to whatever lord you pray to.
Issues: While it is the only one that isn't a breach of privacy, it takes a while and a lot of effort and is incredibly unreliable. Are you ready for the adventurous race in house of hazards?
I really just think it's stupid, since the whole point of this is to make sure that you're human. And as I mentioned before, phone verification already does that. Verifying an ID makes sense for age restricted videos (though honestly I feel like if they're deemed inappropriate for 13-17y/o users they just straight up shouldn't be on the site) but not making sure you're human.
Oh, ALSO...
PINNING COMMENTS NEEDS VERIFICATION. This is more stupid than a mentally ill cockroach, because it just has no advantage, unlike blocking sending links. I will say this only once: Pinning a comment is the OP's choice, and all it does is make people see a certain comment. THE OP WOULD NOT PIN A MALICIOUS COMMENT.
As for how this will affect my channel, it probably won't much - unless there's anything else that I haven't found is also blocked. I can use the URL exploit I mentioned above and since this is a small channel it's not hard to find important comments. But that's the thing - I fear for bigger channels where some comments need to be seen and they'll just be left in the swamp of other comments.
Also, since this channel is decently active, I'll hope for the channel history to work out... because I really would rather not resort to showing Google my face.
In summary, Youtube took a good idea - human verification for sending links - and executed it so devastatingly wrong. Hopefully this gets reversed or changed to phone verification, because people are really not going to be happy.
It's true that pinning a malicious comment would be counterproductive for the channel owner. Instead of requiring verification for pinning, YouTube could focus on improving its comment moderation tools and algorithms to detect and remove harmful content more effectively. It's evident that the current implementation of ID verification needs refinement. Hopeful, YouTube will consider the feedback from users and make adjustments to improve the experience for everyone.
On 2023-11-28 at 22:14:34
Video of your face
Simply requires you to send a 30 second video of you looking at the camera/
Simply requires you to send a 30 second video of you looking at the camera/
I could imagine how awkward this would be if you were to just stare at your camera in silence.
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