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/!\ PUBLISHING YOUR CHALLENGES / SUR LA PUBLICATION DES DÉFIS /!\

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iforgot wrote:
BowserJr03 wrote:
Hello Everyone ^^
I hope you are all doing well,

Recently, the Validator Team have had a few complaints about the rejection of some challenges. They seem to not understand why we make the decisions that we do, but I assure you that we don't reject any to piss anyone off. In our opinions, there is always something that isn't optimized to be a published challenge, and here are some reasons why they may be rejected.


1 - INAPPROPRIATE CHALLENGES
If a challenge has a name or idea that contains swearing, insults, NSFW content... (basically anything bad), it will be rejected. We don't really get this much which is good.

2 - GENUINELY IMPOSSIBLE CHALLENGES
Some challenges are deliberately made to not be beaten by anyone, even people with the highest skill or even TAS if it was to exist in MKPC. (ex. Complete the track in less than 3 seconds) We see this as a way to get free challenge points and potentially rig the system.

3 - SPAM OF CHALLENGES
Basically, do not make a ton of challenges. I know this sounds strange coming from me since I originally created 38 on Bathaniel Nandy, but this can also be a way of gaining a lot of challenge points. (obviously my intention wasn't to rig the system though, otherwise I wouldn't be validator :p )

4 - RIDICULOUSLY EASY CHALLENGES
When a challenge is too easy, it no longer becomes a "challenge". It's more of a task and requires little to no skill at all. (ex Complete the Track) In this example there is nothing to increase the difficulty of the challenge, so this defeats the whole purpose of making a challenge. (obviously if the course is hard then it's an exception) For these type of challenges to be accepted you need to add some conditions that make the gameplay a little harder and more interesting.

5 - ZONES WITH NO HINTS
When you are told to reach a zone but there is nothing to guide you, no skill is involved, everything is pretty much just pure luck and hope. It can also be a way to gain points effortlessly.

6 - REPETITIVE CHALLENGES
When challenges are too similar it gets stupid. An example is:
Complete the track in less than 52 seconds
Complete the track in less than 51 seconds
Complete the track in less than 50 seconds
As you can see there is very little variation, and allows you to beat a bunch of challenges easily.

7 - SECRETS FOR SPEED
If you add invisible shortcuts or ways to become faster to get a better time for a challenge, then it's cheating.

8 - UNPUBLISHED CIRCUITS CAN'T HAVE CHALLENGES
Some people have been releasing challenges without the circuit being published. The problem with this is that the creator, who is anonymous, will manipulate the track after release and gain free challenge points. Because we don't know who created the challenge, the person will be more likely to exploit this. This is why circuits must be published first.

9 - FAKE DIFFICULTIES
Please don't think you can get away with deliberately requesting a fake difficulty. (ex. Requesting a Challenge to be Impossible when it is actually Easy) This gets super annoying for the validators to edit, and also reduces your credibility for future challenges. Obviously, it can be unintentional when the difficulty change is small, in which case you're fine. This rule mainly applies to those who think they can exploit the Challenge Point system.

10 - STOLEN TRACKS CAN'T HAVE CHALLENGES
If you steal another person's course without their permission, you are breaking the rules. Not only should you not deserve to have any challenges on it but it should be deleted. If the image was made by another person and permission was in fact given, then challenges will be allowed.


These are pretty much the reasons why we reject challenges. (I may update this in future) Don't assume we do it because we hate you or because we are dumb. We are all human and we will make mistakes every now and then, but you have nothing to worry about if you follow these guidelines. Occasionally the game may bug and automatically manipulate the challenge, so that may be another reason.

If a challenge does happen to be rejected, PLEASE READ THE FEEDBACK before you try to re-upload it. This is another common issue the validators have to deal with, and is quite annoying when we have to reject the same challenge because the creator didn't fix the addressed problems.

Also, please don't get salty if we reject a challenge because we are just trying to do our jobs.

If you want, follow the topic in case you ever need to come back to this.

Goodbye ^^

Original message slightly corrected by Wal68.
Bonjour à tous ^^
J'espère que vous allez tous bien,

Récemment, l'équipe des validateurs a reçu quelques plaintes concernant le rejet de certains défis. Les créateurs de défis semblent ne pas comprendre certaines de nos décisions, mais je vous assure qu'on ne refuse pas les défis dans le seul but d'énerver les gens. À notre avis, il y a toujours quelque chose qui n'est pas optimisé pour qu'un défi soit publié, voici quelques raisons pour lesquelles ils peuvent être rejetés.


1 - DÉFIS INAPPROPRIÉS
Si un défi a un nom ou une idée qui contient des jurons, des insultes, du contenu NSFW... (en gros, tout ce qui est mauvais), il sera rejeté. Heureusement, nous n'avons pas beaucoup affaire à ce genre de choses.

2 - DÉFIS COMPLÈTEMENT IMPOSSIBLES
Certains défis sont délibérément faits pour ne pas être complétés par qui que ce soit, même par les meilleurs joueurs ou même à l'aide d'un TAS si cela arrivait à exister sur MKPC. (par exemple, terminer le circuit en moins de 3 secondes) Nous considérons ces types de défis comme un moyen d'obtenir des points de défi gratuitement et éventuellement de truquer le système.

3 - SPAM DE DÉFIS
S'il vous plaît, ne faites pas des tonnes de défis. Je sais que cela peut paraître paradoxal venant de moi puisqu'au départ, j'ai créé 38 défis sur l'arène Bathaniel Nandy, mais cela peut aussi être un moyen de gagner beaucoup de points de défi. (Évidemment,  mon intention n'était pas de truquer le système, sinon je n'aurais jamais pu devenir validateur :p)

4 - DÉFIS RIDICULEMENT FACILES
Lorsqu'un défi est trop facile, il ne devient plus un "défi". Il s'agit plutôt d'une tâche qui ne requiert que peu ou pas de compétences. (par exemple, "Finir le circuit" sans contraintes, sur un circuit facile) Dans l'exemple que je viens de citer, il n'y a rien qui augmente la difficulté du défi, ce qui va donc à l'encontre de l'objectif de la création d'un défi. (évidemment, si le circuit est difficile, pas de problème) Pour que ce type de défi soit accepté, vous devez ajouter certaines conditions qui rendent le gameplay un peu plus difficile et plus intéressant.

5 - ATTEINDRE UNE ZONE, SANS INDICES
Quand on vous dit d'atteindre une zone mais qu'il n'y a rien pour vous guider, aucune capacité n'est impliquée, c'est une question de chance et d'espoir. Cela peut aussi être un moyen de gagner des points sans aucun effort.

6 - DÉFIS RÉPÉTITIFS
Lorsque les défis sont beaucoup trop similaires, c'est juste stupide. En voici un exemple :
Finir le circuit en moins de 52 secondes
Finir le circuit en moins de 51 secondes
Finir le circuit en moins de 50 secondes
Comme vous pouvez le constater, il y a très peu de différences entre ces défis, et cela vous permet facilement de tous les compléter en une seule fois.

7 - ÉLEMENTS CACHÉS
Si vous ajoutez des raccourcis invisibles dans votre création ou des moyens d'être plus rapide pour obtenir un meilleur temps pour un défi, alors c'est de la triche.

8- LES CIRCUITS NON PUBLIÉS NE PEUVENT PAS AVOIR DE DÉFIS
Certaines personnes ont fait des défis sans publier leur circuit. Le problème, c'est que le créateur anonyme peut changer le circuit après sa publication et gagner des points de défis gratuitement. Puisqu'on ne sait pas qui a créé le défi, la personne a encore plus de chance d'en profiter. C'est pourquoi les circuits devraient être publiés en premier.

9 - FAUSSES DIFFICULTÉS
Veuillez ne pas essayer de tricher en indiquant une fausse difficulté (par exemple, indiquer la difficulté Impossible sur un défi qui mérite en réalité d'être Facile). C'est très ennuyeux pour les validateurs qui doivent modifier ça après coup, et ça réduit votre crédibilité pour les futurs défis. Évidemment cela peut être involontaire lorsque la différence de difficulté est faible, auquel cas ce n'est pas un problème. Cette règle s'applique principalement pour ceux qui cherchent à tricher avec le système de points défis.

10 - LES CIRCUITS ILLÉGITIMEMENT RÉAPPROPRIÉS NE PEUVENT PAS AVOIR DE DÉFIS
Si vous publiez un circuit dont l'image a été réappropriée sans la moindre autorisation de la part du propriétaire légitime, vous allez à l'encontre des règlements du site. Non seulement votre circuit ne mérite pas d'avoir le moindre défi dessus mais il devrait être complètement supprimé. En revanche, si le propriétaire légitime de l'image vous a donné son accord pour l'utiliser, alors le circuit peut avoir des défis.


J'ai donc cité les raisons les plus courantes pour lesquelles nous, validateurs, rejetons les défis. (C'est possible que je rajoute des choses à l'avenir).
Lorsque nous rejetons des défis, ne croyez pas que nous faisons ça parce que nous vous détestons ou parce que nous sommes idiots. Nous sommes tous des humains et faisons des erreurs de temps en temps, mais si vous suivez mes recommandations, vous n'aurez pas à vous inquiéter. Parfois, il peut arriver que le jeu bug et modifie automatiquement un défi, ce qui peut être une autre raison.


Si un défi est effectivement rejeté, MERCI DE LIRE LE COMMENTAIRE avant de le soumettre de nouveau. Ceci est un autre problème courant que rencontrent les validateurs, et c'est assez ennuyeux de devoir rejeter le même défi en boucle simplement parce que son créateur n'a pas corrigé le problème remonté.

Une dernière chose, ne vous énervez pas si nous rejetons un défi : nous essayons simplement de faire notre travail.

Si vous le souhaitez, vous pouvez suivre ce topic si vous avez besoin de le relire.

Au revoir ^^

Traduction faite par: Toad64 (points 1-9) et Wal68 (point 10), avec quelques retouches finales apportées par Wal68.


CAN YOU MAKE MARIO KART PC STOP SAYING THAT MY TRACKS ARE NOT MADE, and now, I WILL STOP PUBLISHING CHALLENGES NOW
I'm sorry? I might be the one who rejected one of your challenges, can you tell me which track it was exactly?
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The_Dragon wrote:
"défis N°10 du circuit des 4 saisons : expert de destruction de noël
Détruire les bonhommes de neige en mode Contre-la-montre, en mode 200cc, sans reculer, sans toucher de boule de neige, arbre, Topi Taupe, Goomba, plante de feu, Chomp, Bill Ball, Plante Piranha, tâche d'huile, Thwomp, tuyau ni flaque, sans toucher les murs
Sans équipes" en quoi ce challenge est impossible ??????
Tu l'as vérifié en trichant, comme tu as fait avec l'ancien Challenge Impossible de ton même circuit + Tu as modifié le circuit.
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BowserJr03 wrote:
In your case, I have skill issue and can't beat some of them lol

Mal98 wrote:
That's because you won't stop creating TONS of genuinely extreme/impossible challenges and the whole challenge validation team has skill issues :p


I thought there were people who could beat those Challenges in 1 Attempt ngl, cuz I'm by far NOT the skillest player here.
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I've made multiple Challenge this month and I've noticed 2 things:
- I make a Challenge, Publish it, and the next day it got Verified
- I make a Challenge, Publish it, and after a LONG LONG TIME it is still not verified, which is the case for some of my Challenges.
So what are the Challenge Validators doing? Like on the Discord I've seen 10-15 Challenge Validators but after a Month still nothing??? Also before you say anything like "ThEy HaVe A lIfE", think of the previous Situation of Max.
gamba1

/!\ DEPARTURE, COMEBACK OR HIATUS NOTICES / ANNONCES DE DÉPARTS, DE RETOURS OU DE PAUSES

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Kernell wrote:
another reason why i quit lounge is because of the fucking shitty talk that they be saying.

You literally always drop after one race, wasting the time of everybody else in the link. You can't get mad at people getting annoyed by your own selfish behaviour.

Uhh...
not trying to side with anyone here, but they do swear/cuss a lot on there.
I don't really like that sort of language, but I still play either way.
You have to take into account that on the Lounge's Discord server, most of the players are 15-16+, some are pre-adults or even adults already. Swears are to be expected, especially when you know you are playing a Mario Kart game that can make anybody rage in just a matter of events.

What Mapno4, Kernell and Invu have said is entirely correct and for the 3-4 lounges he tried, he was always AFK after just a few races, even gave up and started AFKing the first lounge he did because he considered himself as "too unskilled compared to the other players" who HE KNEW had way more skill and experience than him.
Lounge is indeed the competitive side of Mario Kart PC, but like in any other Mario Kart game, it's also the part of the community that is really willing to see newer players improve to become one of the best players in the game.
ok1
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Seriously can my warning be lifted now lol

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connor7000 wrote:
I've had a warning for "open racism" for over 3 years now for some jokes I made about a Polish guy, can I just play some Mario Kart PC without being haunted by that red racism text every time I log in? :}:}:}
Hello connor, apologies from the moderation team.

The current warn system is pretty bad on this website currently: the only way to remove a warning is for moderators to manually remove them... and most of the time nobody cares about removing warns that's why it stays for so long. We have had multiple complaints about this same thing happening but with other members and look forward to change how it works. A warning shouldn't last more than a month to begin with, it just becomes stupid after that.

Thank you for telling us, your warning has been removed.

What are your Super Smash Bros. mains?

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Waluigi
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mario_no1

MKPC COUNTER 7th birthday !!!

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Mal98 wrote:
Ive wrote:
The fact that the 2 biggest events of MKPC occured on the same day is an absolute miracle
What's the second event?


6th Anniversary & 1M Visitors
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ok2
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Ive wrote:
The fact that the 2 biggest events of MKPC occured on the same day is an absolute miracle

Luck based event
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"There are still lots of dramas", on se demande bien qui les créer tout le temps
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Ive wrote:
YEEAAAH!!! I DID IT!!! 1M VISITORS!!!

Ah I didn't know that this all was your work


It obviously was!
xd4
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YEEAAAH!!! I DID IT!!! 1M VISITORS!!!

⚠️ Online Safety Tips ⚠️

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I mean, what can I do to encourage online safety and MH?

You're thinking: What does MH stand for?

I can't tell you until I change my username.
I changed it for you. Now tell me what it means.
genius3
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OK. So, if everyone is unhappy with being disguised as AI...

...I have to declare that my disguise is coming to an end and the tradition of AI and safety didn't work.

I have to admit that I would say that if safety quizzes didn't have any AI, chances are likely that the humans will mark it wrong answers as correct. I'm not trying to say that it may be based on their experiences over the years, but I specialize in emotional thinking, indicating that it is a fear.

With the introduction of AI, there has been an exponential rise in production for businesses. It's expected that workers could use resources provided by artificial intelligence to boost their productivity.

What would have been a better way to encourage online safety?
Not AI
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Anyways about the topic...

I'm glad you care about our online safety, and this topic sure helps with that, but...

Associating AI with online safety is just wrong. I don't mean to like insult you or say that online safety doesn't matter, I mean to say that AI is very dangerous. Please listen to this, and all the other messages that say how bad AI is. PLEASE. Don't just ignore those messages by just posting negative reactions to them and nothing else, actually listen to them. I hope you listen to this.

And to everyone else, hope you guys also listen, but also, I'm glad you guys also care for online safety.

That's all. I hope you listen to this, @OrientationAI

Spoiler [ShowHide]
Here's the story about why I am disguised as an AI:

Well, it dates back to when I saw an electronic safety quiz book, where a green/red traffic light lights up when you answer it correct/wrong. I eventually used this feature in the Scratch project https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/836151111/. Back in 2019, I was in a Wheel Of Fortune school assembly. I thought there might actually be something that knows things but is not a living thing. In 2023, I learned what AI is.

In the winter of 2023-2024, I was very into Animal Jam, where I found the Security Station. Since 2023, I had a fear of AI, and I passed the safety quiz book concept to AJ's online safety quiz because they are both about safety.

My old username was BowserGRRRR. I got banned for a week. After that, to encourage online safety, I disguised myself as an AI but putting AI in my new username, keeping the tradition of the relationship of AI and safety alive.

Everyone caught me and said that I am not an AI, which means that my disguise did bad.
We are not AIs... We are humans... Humans are...
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POW-Hazel wrote:
My username is Hazel
My password is MarioKartProgramCounter_3375
I asked ChatGPT and Claude to generate me a cool password and my new password is "ILoveFemb0ys67".
thinking1

If you own Nintendo, what would you do?

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Kernell wrote:
Nodac64 wrote:
-GamerGuy- wrote:
-GamerGuy- wrote:
make MKWorld good

wdym? MKWorld is fine how it is, they even fixed some characters' crappy animations!

Yes that's what I would do, I would make the character animations look even better than they do for NS2.

trust me bro have you played online
So because Online sucks, the WHOLE GAME sucks? The tracks? The game modes? Free roam? Terrible reasoning I see here.

Online is the main way to play the game unless you have 11 or more friends around, so yes awful online is quite a significant drawback

This is also without mentioning 24 players or how terrible the items are
Request Better GP Mode in MKWorld xD
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-GamerGuy- wrote:
-GamerGuy- wrote:
make MKWorld good

wdym? MKWorld is fine how it is, they even fixed some characters' crappy animations!

Yes that's what I would do, I would make the character animations look even better than they do for NS2.

trust me bro have you played online
So because Online sucks, the WHOLE GAME sucks? The tracks? The game modes? Free roam? Terrible reasoning I see here.
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Add Waluigi to Super Smash Bros.

NK Team

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KeinieoMK wrote:
DISCLAIMER: None of us personally dislike Ahmad and that is something I would like all members to think.

@neptunogamermkpc gave me an idea that stuck with me, Team up to beat enough of Ahmad's records to dethrone him for the first time EVER. I want more members because right now, we have 4 which is not enough, neptuno is only a threat to ONE of Ahmad's records, @M4x1mumY33t is a threat to two of them and so is @WorldRecord so we need more firepower, if you feel like you could get a record of Ahmad's then reply to this with the current track

If you want to get one but dont have the necesssary skills, feel free to pm me, @M4x1mumY33t and @neptunogamermkpc (i will edit this to say whether you can pm WorldRecord but for now just dont)

I hope to see you on the team!
In general when building a team against a very skilled player, you should expect that player to also bring his own team. That is where we come into play! ;)
Starting tomorrow, the BFDI team will take down your records!
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